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Glossary entry

español term or phrase:

hábito enólico

inglés translation:

drinking habit

Added to glossary by liz askew
Apr 17, 2010 22:01
14 yrs ago
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español term

hábito enólico

español al inglés Medicina Medicina (general)
Spain: medical history: "Exfumador desde hace 6 meses. No hábito enólico." Is this to be read/translated as "no alcohol abuse"? or does it mean patient does not drink at all? There are 2 KudoZ entries for "enolismo" -- one clearly implying "abuse" (alcoholism) and the other just "consumption". Opinions? Thank you.
Proposed translations (inglés)
4 +1 no drinking habit
5 +4 enolic habit
4 +5 (no) alcohol consumption / non-drinker
4 (not a) regular drinker
Change log

Apr 22, 2010 14:17: liz askew changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/114038">Lesley Jackson (X)'s</a> old entry - "hábito enólico"" to ""drinking habit""

Discussion

margaret caulfield Apr 18, 2010:
Sorry... I meant to say in any type of NORMAL medical report, which this obviously is due to the "tone" of the previous comment. I have to go to sleep now (it¡s now 04.03 in the morning here), so "goodnight, sleep tight and don't let the bugs bite."
margaret caulfield Apr 18, 2010:
I fully understand, but I still would never use your answer in any type of medical report.
Carolina Brito Apr 18, 2010:
I have never received a written report from any doctor...in layman's terms or not....this is probably a report from one doctor to another....we usually respect their manner/style of writing...I am not saying you are incorrect. I am simply translating what the doctor wrote.
margaret caulfield Apr 18, 2010:
britos, "no alcohol consumption" (in inverted brackets - the way to get the exact term) has 509,000 hits on Google and "non-drinker" has 916,000. In any case, Google is not 100% correct. My main point here is the register. As I said, if this were an "official" report, perhaps you'd be right, but if it were, it would not state the part about the ex-smoker in the terms used.
Carolina Brito Apr 18, 2010:
Results 1 - 10 of about 45,100 hits in google
margaret caulfield Apr 18, 2010:
Yes, britos, but this is a term that all doctors use in SPANISH for the simple term "non-drinker", "no alcohol (consumption)", i.e. "No alcohol". Going from "Exfumador desde hace 6 meses" (a street/normal language which is stated differently in a technical medical report), this is a preliminary report often given to the patient. It's not said this way in this type of report in ENGLISH.
Carolina Brito Apr 18, 2010:
margaret caulfield: I don't think the normal man on the street would understand this. It's too technical IMO, given the rest of the short context. You've actually given a technical term. For further discussion, I suggest you put your comments in the discussion section.

Brito's: fine, can we actually change the wording to a technical term? He did not use street/normal language...it was a report

Proposed translations

+1
16 horas
Selected

no drinking habit

as an alternative
The relation of drinking and smoking habits to diet: the Lipid ...by M Fisher - 1985 - Cited by 101 - Related articles
Drinking and smoking habits tended to go together. (Table. 2). Drinking was more com- mon among persons who smoked than among persons who did not smoke; ...
www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/41/3/623.pdf


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Note added at 16 hrs (2010-04-18 14:33:39 GMT)
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a subtle difference between

non-drinker and no drinking habit

somebody can drink alcohol but not have a drinking habit

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Note added at 16 hrs (2010-04-18 14:35:24 GMT)
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British smoking and drinking habits: variations by country of birthby R Balarajan - 1986 - Cited by 52 - Related articles
In this analysis, smoking and drinking habits were explored by country ... ex-smokers and current smokers (light < 20/day, heavy > 20/day and very heavy > 30/ .... Medical and Population subjects No. 47, London: Her Majesty's Stationery ...
jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/8/3/237.pdf - Similar

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Note added at 16 hrs (2010-04-18 14:37:11 GMT)
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How health affects teeth, including diet, smoking and drinking11 Mar 2008 ... But diet, smoking and drinking alcohol also have an effect on dental health. A healthy diet. What you eat and drink can help prevent (or ...
www.nhs.uk/Livewell/dentalhealth/Pages/Keepteethhealthy.asp... - Cached
How Do Smoking And Drinking Affect Pregnancy?The dangers of smoking and drinking excessive amounts of alcohol are well known; ... opportunity for women to think about their smoking and drinking habits; ...
www.ehealthmd.com/library/smokingpreg/sap_affect.html - Cached
Alcohol magnifies the rewarding effects of smoking, even for light ...15 Apr 2005 ... Numerous studies have shown an association between cigarette smoking and alcohol drinking. Although cigarette craving is thought to be a ...
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/22865.php - Cached - Similar
Peer comment(s):
agree MPGS : 'habit' :)
34 minutos
Thank you!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "After this lively discussion, I give you the pts because your translation preserves the ambiguity of the source text (i.e., says nothing definite one way or the other about pt's alcohol consumption -- but we know, at least, pt does not abuse it. Well done!"
+4
18 minutos

enolic habit

#
Medifam vol.11 issue8; Abstract: S1131-57682001000800004
Are we making profitable use of it -so that we can take preventive measures- or on the contrary, does it ... except for a better register of enolic habits (p=0.04) in controls. ...
scielo.isciii.es/scielo.php?...&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en - Cached
Peer comment(s):
agree Leonardo Lamarche : agree.
18 minutos
mil gracias, Leonardo y que tengas un bonito fin (lo que nos queda)
neutral margaret caulfield : I don't think the normal man on the street would understand this. It's too technical IMO, given the rest of the short context. You've actually given a technical term. For further discussion, I suggest you put your comments in the discussion section.
1 hora
can we actually change the wording to a technical term?
agree Joel Pina Diaz : Technical? Excellent choice.
2 horas
thank you, Joel and have a wonderful Sunday!!
agree MPGS : keyword is 'habit': recurring consumption. :)
10 horas
thanks you and have a nice day!!
agree Laura Gómez
13 horas
mil gracias y buenos dias!!!
neutral Wendy Cummings : The source quoted is not written by a native English person, and even refers to "esquizofreny"
1 día 13 horas
bad source, but I simply translated technical term
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+5
1 hora

(no) alcohol consumption / non-drinker

Viendo el rest del contexto, no creo que debamos utilizar términos excesivamente técnicos aquí. (Mucha gente no sabe lo que quiere decir "enólico" en español ni mucho menos "enolic" in inglés).

Yo pondría sencillamente "non-drinker".
Peer comment(s):
agree Cinnamon Nolan : Absolutely right, Margaret. I'd go with Non-drinker.
3 horas
Thanks, C. So would I. Hope everything's going well!
agree Gloria Rivera : Great! I prefer non-drinker :)
6 horas
Thanks, Gloria.
agree Emma Goldsmith : Your options are by far the best.
8 horas
Thanks, Emma.
agree mjsmyth
13 horas
Thanks, mjsmyth.
agree Roxanna Delgado : Actually, 4 hits in Google for "enolic habit", this page being one of them. The other 3 are of course translations. Sometimes we don't understand that where in Spanish medical jargon we may use a lot of "fancy" words, English medical jargon usually doesn'
14 horas
Thanks, Roxanna. Your last comment fully coincides with my last one in my note.
neutral liz askew : I wouldn't use "enolic" FWIW. Never, ever come across it in medical jargon in any case.
15 horas
Thank you. "enólico"'s very often used in ordinary medical preliminary reports in Spain, i.e. when you're asked if you smoke, etc. I've had many given to me lately and it's very common although "hábito" isn't used, but, as you say, not in English
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20 horas

(not a) regular drinker

Another option
Residual Effects of Intoxication on Student Performance - Full ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
... Hasn't had 5 or more drinks (4 if female) in the last 30 days (not a regular drinker); Score greater than or equal to 5 on the Short Michigan Alcohol ...
clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00183170 - En caché
Alcohol Poisoning Signs - [ Traducir esta página ]
Although this might be dismissed as the effect of alcohol on one who is not a regular drinker, the possibility that the individual is suffering from alcohol ...
www.buzzle.com/articles/alcohol-poisoning-signs.htm
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