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Poll: When the number of your Kudoz points increased, have outsources began to contact you more often?
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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "When the number of your Kudoz points increased, have outsourcers began to contact you more often?".

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No, thank goodness Apr 28, 2022

I find quoting a nice high price keeps the riff-raff away.

Philip Lees
Kay Denney
 
Ana Vozone
Ana Vozone  Identity Verified
Local time: 02:31
Miembro 2010
inglés al portugués
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No, not really Apr 28, 2022

When I am contacted by potentially new clients, they usually mention that they found my profile on Proz, they never mention my Kudoz points...

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Alexandra Speirs
Robert Rietvelt
Ventnai
Linda Miranda
Adam Jarczyk
Josephine Cassar
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 02:31
Miembro 2007
inglés al portugués
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No, not really Apr 28, 2022

I have been an active Proz member since 2006 and only once a potential new client said that he was contacting me because he had looked at the Kudoz leaders for the language pair he was interested in. That’s all in 16 years…

Barbara Carrara
 
Lieven Malaise
Lieven Malaise
Bélgica
Local time: 03:31
Miembro 2020
francés al neerlandés
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Not a Kudoz participant. Apr 28, 2022

I'm not a Kudoz participant (no time, not interested, whatever ...). However, in the two years I'm on Proz now I have been contacted quite a few times by agencies reaching out, but only 1 or 2 were potentially interesting. My impression is that the most active agencies on this platform are the ones that are hoping to pay as little as possible.

I think Proz is a great way to stay in touch with the translation market and a good way to get some information about translation agencies (i
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I'm not a Kudoz participant (no time, not interested, whatever ...). However, in the two years I'm on Proz now I have been contacted quite a few times by agencies reaching out, but only 1 or 2 were potentially interesting. My impression is that the most active agencies on this platform are the ones that are hoping to pay as little as possible.

I think Proz is a great way to stay in touch with the translation market and a good way to get some information about translation agencies (if you would be looking for any new ones), but if you want decent new clients, you will have to do the effort yourself to contact them and present yourself.
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Ventnai
Alexandra Speirs
Kay Denney
Linda Miranda
Adam Jarczyk
Carmen Lanzrein
 
Christine Andersen
Christine Andersen  Identity Verified
Dinamarca
Local time: 03:31
Miembro 2003
danés al inglés
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Yes, for better or worse! Apr 28, 2022

I used to be very active in Kudoz - and others helped me a lot too.
In all modesty, I am still one of the so-called all-time leaders in my language pair! This placed me near the top in the directory, and has drawn in a lot of offers from outsourcers over the years. Some offers are definitely more interesting than others.

As there are more online resources now than there used to be, there are fewer Kudoz questions altogether. I suspect it is far more difficult to gather points
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I used to be very active in Kudoz - and others helped me a lot too.
In all modesty, I am still one of the so-called all-time leaders in my language pair! This placed me near the top in the directory, and has drawn in a lot of offers from outsourcers over the years. Some offers are definitely more interesting than others.

As there are more online resources now than there used to be, there are fewer Kudoz questions altogether. I suspect it is far more difficult to gather points now than it was some years back. I also work in a 'small' language pair, so the competition has never been quite so fierce as in the more widespread languages.

I would still advise anyone to keep an eye on Kudoz, but there should probably be other ways of getting to the top of the directory, IMHO.

[Edited at 2022-04-28 22:59 GMT]
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
ahartje
Elena Feriani
Marwa Seleem
 
Harishankar Shahi
Harishankar Shahi  Identity Verified
India
Miembro 2014
inglés al hindi
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Kudoz isn't a fair metrics Apr 28, 2022

The Kudoz-based ranking is totally unfair and anyone can influence it with an offline/online setup, easily. Since this is a professional marketplace so there are many work seekers use to come here to find a job.

And establish person(s) use them to manipulate Kudoz by making them ask questions and then select their answers so they can have the points.

This practice only builds a syndicate where some people use others to be on the top. Furthermore, it discourages linguis
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The Kudoz-based ranking is totally unfair and anyone can influence it with an offline/online setup, easily. Since this is a professional marketplace so there are many work seekers use to come here to find a job.

And establish person(s) use them to manipulate Kudoz by making them ask questions and then select their answers so they can have the points.

This practice only builds a syndicate where some people use others to be on the top. Furthermore, it discourages linguistic discussions which is the pillar of this Kudoz concept.

It must be stopped and ranking must be on random selections then anyone can be on the top for the day or particular time. Otherwise, there is no such fairness indulged in the membership if any can get the benefit by tricks.
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Kay Denney
expressisverbis
Matheus Gui
 
neilmac
neilmac
España
Local time: 03:31
español al inglés
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Not really Apr 28, 2022

I seldom look at my contact e-mail for kudoz and other proz notifications. Most of the approaches I get tend to be spammy or from bottom feeders offering very low rates. Apart from that, I get the occasional collaboration query or a comment from a colleague, but nothing much else.

 
Kay Denney
Kay Denney  Identity Verified
Francia
Local time: 03:31
francés al inglés
. Apr 28, 2022

Where's the option "I don't ever answer Kudoz questions"?

I've only dipped into Kudoz a couple of times, and answered questions on one of my specialist subjects. Once it was Sheila Wilson asking so I was very happy to help her. Other than that, there have been so many threads here about people cheating and other cut-throat behaviour, and I soon saw it just wasn't worth it.
The translators in my language pair with the most points have so many I'd have to work full-time on Kud
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Where's the option "I don't ever answer Kudoz questions"?

I've only dipped into Kudoz a couple of times, and answered questions on one of my specialist subjects. Once it was Sheila Wilson asking so I was very happy to help her. Other than that, there have been so many threads here about people cheating and other cut-throat behaviour, and I soon saw it just wasn't worth it.
The translators in my language pair with the most points have so many I'd have to work full-time on Kudoz for several months to be able to catch up, it's ridiculous. Not that I even really need new clients at this point. So nope.
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Christine Andersen
expressisverbis
Nadja Balogh
 
jyuan_us
jyuan_us  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:31
Miembro 2005
inglés al chino
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IMHO Apr 28, 2022

Ana Vozone wrote:

When I am contacted by potentially new clients, they usually mention that they found my profile on Proz, they never mention my Kudoz points...



The fact that they never mentioned your Kudoz points doesn't mean they didn't look at them. IMHO, your argument didn't effectively lead to your conclusion.

[Edited at 2022-04-28 21:36 GMT]


Sebastian Witte
 
Samuel Murray
Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
Países Bajos
Local time: 03:31
Miembro 2006
inglés al afrikaans
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Not as far as I remember Apr 28, 2022

This event must have happened about 15 years ago. I don't think so, but I can't really remember.

 
Rita Utt
Rita Utt  Identity Verified
Francia
Local time: 03:31
inglés al alemán
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Decent clients Apr 28, 2022

Lieven Malaise wrote:



I think Proz is a great way to stay in touch with the translation market and a good way to get some information about translation agencies (if you would be looking for any new ones), but if you want decent new clients, you will have to do the effort yourself to contact them and present yourself.


Yes and ProZ could be so much more, if they really tried to focus on high end outsourcers willing to pay more ...


Lieven Malaise
expressisverbis
 
Barbara Cochran, MFA
Barbara Cochran, MFA  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:31
español al inglés
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Not More Often, But... Apr 28, 2022

...I can think of one client who contacted me because of what she saw of my recent participation on kudoz. I am talking about when it came to pages where I answered others' questions. But I'm glad she did, since it resulted in a single project that amounted to 1,000's of dollars for me.

[Edited at 2022-04-28 15:36 GMT]


Christine Andersen
 
Metin Demirel
Metin Demirel  Identity Verified
Turquía
Local time: 05:31
italiano al turco
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Not participating anymore Apr 28, 2022

I stopped answering the KudoZ questions about 2 years ago, yet I'm being contacted more and more since then (other than the mass mailings which I ignore). I don't know if that's related to the few points I have though.

[Edited at 2022-04-28 15:48 GMT]


Becca Resnik
 
Cristina Heraud-van Tol
Cristina Heraud-van Tol  Identity Verified
Perú
Local time: 21:31
Miembro 2005
inglés al español
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Yes, definitely! Apr 28, 2022

I realized that in most (or perhaps all) ProZ's directories, the list of translators are shown in order according to their Kudoz points, so as I have a lot, my name is first in Peru and very high in other lists. Clients tend to choose translators with the highest rankings, not translator No. 1534 or so.

Agneta Pallinder
Marwa Seleem
Christine Andersen
Baran Keki
 
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