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Mar 10, 2009 00:28
16 yrs ago
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español term

residencia geriatrica

español al inglés Medicina Medicina (general)
How would you say this in British English? Is a rest home for the elderly US only?
Proposed translations (inglés)
5 +5 Nursing Home
3 +2 Geriatric Home/Residence/Residential Home
4 retirement home/residence
4 care home (see explanation)
5 -2 assisted living facility

Discussion

Ricardo Galarza Mar 11, 2009:
"Geriatric" does involve nursing care Interesting discussion! How people try to deny "geriatric" involves nursing care is beyond me. I spent my childhood going three times a week to a "residencia geriátrica," where if people hadn't needed nursing care (and even medical care sometimes), I wouldn't have had to go visit anybody there in the first place. Now, don't take my word for it. Let us better see the meaning of gereatrics (adjective form: geriatric), which is a branch of medicine; I think that says it all: it's much more than just "assisted living."
In its entry for noun, the Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary says of geriatrics: "plural but singular in construction: a branch of medicine that deals with the problems and diseases of old age and aging people."
In the entry for adjective, the same dictionary says: "geriatric. Of, relating to, affecting, or being aged individuals geriatric population in a nursing home."
That's what the Merriam-Webster's Medical Dict. textually says, and anyone can check it online here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/geriatric
"Nursing home" is the exact translation for a "residencia geriátrica".
Kind regards to everyone.
Virginia Dominguez Mar 10, 2009:
Assisted living facility v Nursing home Please don't assume about my experience or non experience, as I think that would be a very unprofessional comment. What I have referred to was 'Residencia Geriatrica' how can that be translated as 'assisted living facility' I have not seen that refering to 'a' residence in particular anywhere, at least not here in Australia. Thank you. Have a great day! Enjoy your age as it is the best as any age is, being alive!!!!
Muriel Vasconcellos (X) Mar 10, 2009:
Terminology "assisted living facility" - 12,300,000 hits
"senior housing" - 4,200,000 hits
"retirement home" - 1,940,000 hits
"senior retirement living" - 16,200 hits
I get the feeling that people who are making the "nursing home" suggestions do not have much direct experience in this area.
Virginia Dominguez Mar 10, 2009:
Assisted living facility v Nursing home I agree with Catherine and disagree with Muriel that obviously has been hurt deeply by the term 'nursing homes' however, I will have to say that a retirment home or village describes better the assisted living facility.
Muriel Vasconcellos (X) Mar 10, 2009:
"Geriatric" does not necessarily imply care I am SOOO DEEPLY shocked that colleagues are equating "geriatric" with the need for nursing care. Please see my discussion below. Perhaps the problem lies with the fact that younger people don't have to think of the subtleties. I know many seniors (cohorts, since I am elderly too) who reside in assisted living facilities but are not sick.
Catherine Gilsenan Mar 10, 2009:
Assisted Living Facility/Sheltered Housing This, of course is completely different. Either of these terms is used to described a group of individual residences (houses or flats) which have a warden (warden-controlled) to look out for the residents. There is the option of the living areas being specially adapted for the residents according to any disability. This scheme is a way of the elderly retaining their independence, while still benefitting on the social aspect and also having the warden to call upon when needed.
Catherine Gilsenan Mar 10, 2009:
Nursing Homes v Care Homes In UK, Nursing Homes tend to have a quota of nursing staff, and the elderly residents are more bedbound. These are for elderly people who have a prescribed diagnosis of physical or mental illness. Care Homes, on the other hand, is the now widely used term for residential elderly care, where there is either a mix of more physically able and less physically able, or only physically able.

Proposed translations

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Nursing Home

This is what they are called in Australia.

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Thank you borboleta!
Peer comment(s):
agree Cecilia Gowar
6 minutos
Thank You!!
agree Gabriela Mejías
35 minutos
Gracias Gabriela.
agree Mirtha Grotewold
1 hora
Muchas gracias Mirtha!
agree David Brown : This, of course, is the most common expression, but depending in a professional context "geriatric care home" is quite common
6 horas
Thanks David. Cheers
agree Ricardo Galarza : No doubt!
8 horas
Muchas gracias Richardo. Saludos!
disagree Muriel Vasconcellos (X) : I'm saying that a small percentage of the geriatric population in assisted living facilities require nursing care.
9 horas
I don't get what you are trying to say. As they ones who need care surely are in nursing homes.
agree Maha Medhat
1 día 2 horas
Thank you very much Maha!
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7 minutos

Geriatric Home/Residence/Residential Home

[PDF] An Educational Pathway for Geriatric Home Caregivers
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private duty geriatric home caregivers need in order to ... for geriatric home caregivers ... Japan, Great Britain, France, the Dominican Republic, India, ...www.ilcusa.org/media/pdfs/Educational Pathway v07.pdf

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Not sure if just Nursing Home would work as well.....
Peer comment(s):
agree NKW (X) : Given the '-iatrica' part of the expression, the most likely name for such an establishment would probably be, quite simply, a Nursing Home; 'Residential & Care' would appear to imply that nursing care is not provided.
4 minutos
Thanks so much!!!
agree Carmen Schultz : this is more the register whereas nursing home is more generic
7 horas
thanks, I listed Nursing Home as well as an option just in case.....
neutral Catherine Gilsenan : Would not use "geriatric". Although this is the correct term for the medical area (geriatrics) it is not used in UK to describe the residences.
13 horas
Thanks for the information Catherine!
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retirement home/residence

También se usa...entiendo que es para USA no?
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2 horas

care home (see explanation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nursing_home:
In the United Kingdom, you have the right to choose your care home. Care homes and care homes with nursing are regulated by different organisations in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

To enter a care home, you need an assessment of needs and of your financial condition from your local council. You may also have an assessment by a nurse, should you require nursing care.

What are nursing homes?
Nursing homes as a term has been replaced by care home with nursing (apart from in Northern Ireland where it is still used).

http://www.housingcare.org/elderly-uk-nursing-homes.aspx:
Homes where nursing is not provided, formerly known as residential care homes, are now generally referred to simply as care homes.



Peer comment(s):
neutral Ricardo Galarza : I disagree with your assertion that the term "nursing homes" has been replaced by "care homes." A google search turns up 15,000 hits for "nursing homes" while 2,800 for "care homes."
7 horas
Thanks for your input Ricardo. I was citing references I found that came from valid sources, this change in name seems to be recent, and they still use the term care home with nursing ; you normally find google hits that go back a few years.
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos (X) : Most residences and communities for seniors are NOT nursing homes or "care homes".
8 horas
Thanks Muriel, thanks for your input, but I believe this goes beyond residences for seniors
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10 horas

assisted living facility

In the US at least, "nursing home" implies nursing care. "Assisted living" are community living arrangements that offer a range of amenities for elderly people starting at a level where they can still get around and moving on to nursing care if needed.

620,000 references for "assisted living faciity" with quotes - over 6 million without quotes. The first reference specifically addresses this terminology. The second reference says that this is the most common term.

**How Does an Assisted Living Facility Differ from a Nursing Home? ** Nursing homes are designed to care for very frail people that are not able to care for ...
www.assistedlivinginfo.com/alserve.html\

Assisted Living Facility Facilities Directory Listings by State
Note: **The most common and generic term throughout the country is "Assisted Living Facility" and you may see it abbreviated ALF** for assisted living facility. ...
www.carepathways.com/ALx-states.cfm

Assisted Living INFO - The Nationwide Assisted Living and Senior ...
Assisted Living INFO is your online guide for selecting an assisted living facility, retirement community, or other personal care facility anywhere in the ...
www.assistedlivinginfo.com/

Assisted Living Facilities for Seniors
An Assisted Living Facility provides care for seniors who wish to remain as independent as possible but who need some help with activities of daily living ...
www.helpguide.org/elder/assisted_living_facilities.htm

Assisted Living Directory: Facilities Information, Senior Care ...
An assisted living facility may be in a more rural or country setting that is very home-like. On the other hand, an assisted living facility may look more ...
www.assisted-living-directory.com/



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I am deeply concerned that some colleagues are carelessly equating "geriatric" with "infirm." While "geriatricS" is a branch of medicine, it should not be confused with the word "geriatric", which ALSO refers to many other aspects that concern the aging population - for example, social adjustments and housing. If you look up "geriatric + living," you get "assisted living" "senior housing," "senior retirement living." Searching on the frequency of those terms, the result it is:

"assisted living" - 12,300,000 hits
"senior housing" - 4,200,000 hits
"senior retirement living" - 16,200 hits

Merriam Webster (the ultimate arbiter for US English) defines "geriatric" as follows:

1. Of or relating to geriatrics,
2. Of or relatiang to the aged of the process of aging.

Here are some of the other Internet definitions of geriatriC:

An old person; Of or pertaining to the elderly; Of or pertaining to geriatrics
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/geriatric

# refers to the process of aging or to the elderly.
www.sfaf.org/custom/glossary.aspx

# Relating to older people.
www.drfoster.co.uk/websites/objectlist.aspx

Take the non-medical example of "geriatric social work" (14,200 references):

Definition of Geriatric Social Work
Geriatric social work is a division of social work concerned with the welfare of the elderly. Geriatric social workers help senior citizens enjoy happier, more productive lives. Geriatric social workers improve the quality of life for senior citizens and help alleviate some of the negative aspects of aging.
www.calstatela.edu/dept/soc_work/text/Geriatric Social Work...

Geriatric social work is a division of social work concerned with the welfare of the elderly. Geriatric social workers try to improve the quality of life for senior citizens and help alleviate some of the negative aspects of aging. They help senior citizens enjoy happier, more productive lives.
careers.stateuniversity.com/pages/475/Geriatric-Social-Worker.html

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I don't have a problem with "retirement home" - except that it's far less widely used (1,940,000 hits vs. 12,300,000 for "assisted living facility." It means the same thing - see the Wikipedia entry below:

A retirement home is a multi-residence housing facility intended for the elderly. The usual pattern is that each person or couple in the home has an apartment-style room or suite of rooms. Additional facilities are provided within the building. Often this includes facilities for meals, gathering, recreation, and some form of health or hospice care. The level of facilities varies enormously. A place in a retirement home can be paid for on a rental basis, like an apartment, or can be bought in perpetuity on the same basis as a condominium.

**A retirement home differs from a nursing home primarily in the level of medical care given.** Retirement villages and retirement communities, unlike retirement homes, offer separate and autonomous homes for residents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retirement_home


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548,000 references for ["assisted living"=+UK]. Here are some references for the UK:

Directory of extra care housing and assisted living retirement properties for elderly people looking for housing with care in the UK. ...
www.housingcare.org/elderly-uk-assisted-living-extra-care-h...

Assisted Living - accommodation and care for the elderly in the UK. ... Assisted living providers and facilities combine housing, lifestyle and services for ...
www.privatehealth.co.uk/elderly/elderly-assisted-living/ - 39k - Cached - Similar pages -

Close Care Retirement Homes UK - Assisted Living
Assisted living facilities are for people needing assistance with Activities of Daily Living but wishing to live as independently as possible for as long as ...
www.closecareretirement.co.uk/assisted_living.htm
Peer comment(s):
disagree Ricardo Galarza : I know which one is a noun; and which, an adjective. In fact, I just posted it on the discussion. Be that as it may, the term here is "residencia geriátrica", which I know first hand, I've been to one many times, and I can assure you it's a nursing home.
1 hora
"GeriatricS" is a noun. "GeriatriC" is an adjective referring to the elderly in general. There is a huge difference. It would appear that you haven't read my explanation.
disagree Virginia Dominguez : In which country exactly would you call it assisted living facility?
11 horas
548,000 references to "assisted living"+UK. With 12,300,000 hits for "ALF" I think it's safe to say that it's used throughout the English-speaking world. Perhaps you are in an age group that hasn't had to deal with senior living arrangements.
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