Poll: Which of these client - freelancer scenarios do you find most attractive?
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Oct 3, 2019

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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 04:41
Miembro 2007
inglés al portugués
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Just send me the work, let me translate it, and pay me… Oct 3, 2019

… please. I’ve worked several times with a team of freelancers, both as a leader and as a team member, but I must say that it’s not my most attractive scenario. I don’t care about remaining anonymous or not. I’m not looking for a "partnership", where certain decisions and approaches are reached together (let’s give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar) and something automatic, where no interaction is needed is not my cup of tea, I do need some kind of human interaction, no matter how bri... See more
… please. I’ve worked several times with a team of freelancers, both as a leader and as a team member, but I must say that it’s not my most attractive scenario. I don’t care about remaining anonymous or not. I’m not looking for a "partnership", where certain decisions and approaches are reached together (let’s give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar) and something automatic, where no interaction is needed is not my cup of tea, I do need some kind of human interaction, no matter how brief, because translating can be a very solitary occupation.Collapse


Angus Stewart
Alexandra Speirs
Philippe Etienne
Anna Herbst
Kunal Jaidka
Kevin Fulton
ahartje
 
reem Hasoneh (X)
reem Hasoneh (X)
Suiza
Local time: 05:41
árabe al inglés
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It changes ... Oct 3, 2019

I was working as full-time translator for a company for many years ... it was ideal .. I was the team leader so I had a say and worked closely with peers. Then I relocated to another country... I continued to work for the same company but remotely... was ideal too for a while until I missed the active work life and the human interaction .. maybe in few years I’ll miss the routine, predictable an quite virtual environment... But, I know for sure that in this stage I’d vote for interaction and... See more
I was working as full-time translator for a company for many years ... it was ideal .. I was the team leader so I had a say and worked closely with peers. Then I relocated to another country... I continued to work for the same company but remotely... was ideal too for a while until I missed the active work life and the human interaction .. maybe in few years I’ll miss the routine, predictable an quite virtual environment... But, I know for sure that in this stage I’d vote for interaction and actionCollapse


Christine Andersen
 
Angus Stewart
Angus Stewart  Identity Verified
Reino Unido
Local time: 04:41
francés al inglés
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Just send me the work, let me translate it, and pay me Oct 3, 2019

Its best when things are kept simple.

Philippe Etienne
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Alaa Mahm
Angie Garbarino
Muriel Vasconcellos
Philip Lees
 
Rita Utt
Rita Utt  Identity Verified
Francia
Local time: 05:41
inglés al alemán
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The partnership concept Oct 3, 2019

is the relationship I have with direct clients (or small agencies ).
It's clearly what I'm looking for and I'm amazed that so few collegues do.


Christine Andersen
Amrita Kumari
Catherine De Crignis (X)
 
DZiW (X)
DZiW (X)
Ucrania
inglés al ruso
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Verified co-op only Oct 3, 2019

I still can't get it how those self-proclaimed simplicissimus businesspersons "freelancers"--in the digital era of one-click tricks--can so blindly accept unfavourable "ever-newbies tests", "take-or-leave", "discounts", "after 45+ days", "the best rates", and other funny terms from anonymous prospects--without fair trade and double-check or face-to-face communication as an equal party, thus ... See more
I still can't get it how those self-proclaimed simplicissimus businesspersons "freelancers"--in the digital era of one-click tricks--can so blindly accept unfavourable "ever-newbies tests", "take-or-leave", "discounts", "after 45+ days", "the best rates", and other funny terms from anonymous prospects--without fair trade and double-check or face-to-face communication as an equal party, thus unilaterally taking all the costs, the risks, and the full responsibility--and then sincerely lament bitterly over they've been had again?!
(Whatever.)
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Christine Andersen
Christine Andersen  Identity Verified
Dinamarca
Local time: 05:41
Miembro 2003
danés al inglés
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Partnership Oct 3, 2019

Partnership very often covers Just send me the work, let me translate it, and pay me, but I have seen too many cases of it degenerating into
Just send me the work, let me translate it, and I´ll wait for the peanuts.

Or the client just finds another translator and disappears into the night.

I tell my clients what I like about them, and I certainly let them know, as constructively as possible, when I feel there is room for improvement. Naturally, I have to accept
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Partnership very often covers Just send me the work, let me translate it, and pay me, but I have seen too many cases of it degenerating into
Just send me the work, let me translate it, and I´ll wait for the peanuts.

Or the client just finds another translator and disappears into the night.

I tell my clients what I like about them, and I certainly let them know, as constructively as possible, when I feel there is room for improvement. Naturally, I have to accept criticism when they treat me the same way, but usually we find an arrangement that suits everyone, and we carry on happily.

I have learnt a lot that way, and some clients at least enter into fruitful discussions and thank me for my point of view.
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Tina Vonhof (X)
Catherine De Crignis (X)
 
Tina Vonhof (X)
Tina Vonhof (X)
Canadá
Local time: 21:41
neerlandés al inglés
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Partnership and team Oct 3, 2019

I like a partnership or collaboration and working in a team. I worked in a team several times and I liked it a lot. But I'm aware that an overly critical team member or one who can't take criticism can spoil the team spirit.

 
Angie Garbarino
Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
Local time: 05:41
Miembro 2003
francés al italiano
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Just send me the work, let me translate it, and pay me… Oct 3, 2019

Like Teresa and Angus

Send me the job, let me work and pay me punctually

typo sorry

[Edited at 2019-10-03 15:54 GMT]


Muriel Vasconcellos
Philip Lees
 
Muriel Vasconcellos
Muriel Vasconcellos  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 20:41
Miembro 2003
español al inglés
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Just send me the work, let me translate it, and pay me ASAP Oct 4, 2019

I don't want to get into conversations with the PM - whether by email, phone, or Skype. Keep it simple.

Philip Lees
Angie Garbarino
Alice Crisan
 
DZiW (X)
DZiW (X)
Ucrania
inglés al ruso
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Business = Full one-man unassisted (self-reliant) responsibility Oct 5, 2019

As far as one normally can't do without (1) re/checking the prospect and (2) negotiating/making clear the terms/specifications, I can't help wondering about all those self-appointed free*lancers doing "biz" at their own expense with self-named anonymous clients, wildly letting things drift... Anybody can super-easily pretend to be somebody else.

How about at least basic Risk management or just Common sense, if any?
Knock-knock, prospect Cry-babies.

define:undertaker
1 : one who undertakes : one who takes the risk and management of business : entrepreneur.

2 : one whose business is to prepare the dead for burial and to arrange and manage funerals.


 
Mario Freitas
Mario Freitas  Identity Verified
Brasil
Local time: 01:41
Miembro 2014
inglés al portugués
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It depends on the type of client Oct 6, 2019

For non-regular clients, "Just send me the work, let me translate it, and pay me ASAP".
For regular clients, it must be a partnership, and both parties MUST understand there is no hierarchy, no boss, no report, terms and prices are negotiated and never imposed. The two parties are in a level of exact equality in all aspects. Otherwise, there is no relationship.

[Edited at 2019-10-06 03:02 GMT]


 


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