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| | | | | www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 6, 2010 |
quite important, but actually not for "learning", I mean I use them to improve, to keep the language "alive", not to forget things. But learning for me is a process for actually starting from scratch.
| | | | Interlangue (X)
Angola
Local time: 06:16
inglés al francés
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"Other" meaning "I have no idea": I was fluent in 2 languages before we even had TV. Then, we used watch the "home language" channels, where original version films/series were subtitled. I figure it must have had some influence, unconsciously.
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I spent my late teen and young adult years in Washington, DC, in a neighborhood of "art" cinemas that played foreign films. They captured my imagination. I found them much "deeper" than the movies out of Hollywood - which one had to drive to the suburbs to see, in any case. Simone Signoret and Jeanne Moreau speaking French were more layered than if they had been delivering the same lines in English. I believe those films gave me a strong interest in, and a keen taste for, other cultures and thei... See more I spent my late teen and young adult years in Washington, DC, in a neighborhood of "art" cinemas that played foreign films. They captured my imagination. I found them much "deeper" than the movies out of Hollywood - which one had to drive to the suburbs to see, in any case. Simone Signoret and Jeanne Moreau speaking French were more layered than if they had been delivering the same lines in English. I believe those films gave me a strong interest in, and a keen taste for, other cultures and their languages. ▲ Collapse
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| www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 6, 2010 |
TV, movies and music have played a vast role in teaching me, and improving my, English, and to some extent German. Since we don't dub audio in Sweden, we always hear the original actors speaking, with subtitles, constantly feeding us bilingual media. I started around age 8-9 to transcribe the lyrics of my favourite (English) songs, with hilarious results at first, but it also drove me to look words up, explore dictionaries and in the process expanded my vocabulary. I still attribute learning cer... See more TV, movies and music have played a vast role in teaching me, and improving my, English, and to some extent German. Since we don't dub audio in Sweden, we always hear the original actors speaking, with subtitles, constantly feeding us bilingual media. I started around age 8-9 to transcribe the lyrics of my favourite (English) songs, with hilarious results at first, but it also drove me to look words up, explore dictionaries and in the process expanded my vocabulary. I still attribute learning certain words to specific songs ("to squander" from Simon & Garfunkel's "The Boxer" for example).
Reading multi-lingual food packaging also helped!  ▲ Collapse
| | | | Rolf Kern 
Suiza
Local time: 06:16
inglés al alemán
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In Memoriam | www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 6, 2010 |
I wrote "other", because it was the radio, actually "American Forces Network" from occupied Germany, that I listened as a student during homework, where I rearned a lot of English.
| | | | Amy Duncan (X)
Brasil
Local time: 02:16
portugués al inglés
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| www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 6, 2010 |
What made me want to learn Portuguese in the first place was when I saw the film "Black Orpheus" when it first came out. Over the years I've seen many Brazilian films and learned a lot from them.
I also learned a lot of Portuguese from music, mostly Djavan, João Gilberto and Bezerra da Silva (great for slang) and then later on Ivan Lins, Cássia Eller, Leny Andrade, Ed Motta, the sambas-enredo from the samba schools, and on and on and on. This learning is definitely ongoing, a... See more What made me want to learn Portuguese in the first place was when I saw the film "Black Orpheus" when it first came out. Over the years I've seen many Brazilian films and learned a lot from them.
I also learned a lot of Portuguese from music, mostly Djavan, João Gilberto and Bezerra da Silva (great for slang) and then later on Ivan Lins, Cássia Eller, Leny Andrade, Ed Motta, the sambas-enredo from the samba schools, and on and on and on. This learning is definitely ongoing, and I learn new things all the time. ▲ Collapse
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I started learning Portuguese when I decided to sing Roberto Carlos's "Como Grande é meu Amor por Você" and João Paulo e Daniel's "Estou Apaixonado" to my (now ex-) brasileira wife at our wedding.
I listen to tons of vallenatos, bachatas, Rock en Español, MPB, Fados, and other music in my languages, singing loudly in my car, even attending karaoke at local immigrant owned establishments, etc.
(Unfortunately, I haven't found much music in French that I like. A few Canadian ... See more I started learning Portuguese when I decided to sing Roberto Carlos's "Como Grande é meu Amor por Você" and João Paulo e Daniel's "Estou Apaixonado" to my (now ex-) brasileira wife at our wedding.
I listen to tons of vallenatos, bachatas, Rock en Español, MPB, Fados, and other music in my languages, singing loudly in my car, even attending karaoke at local immigrant owned establishments, etc.
(Unfortunately, I haven't found much music in French that I like. A few Canadian artists, Keren Ann...not much)
It's good practice for speaking, and can help keep one current with linguistic trends if you listen to current music, and above all, it's fun. ▲ Collapse
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Nicole Schnell
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:16
inglés al alemán
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In Memoriam | www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 6, 2010 |
I certainly learned a lot when a friend from England translated the lyrics from Frank Zappa's album "Sheik Yerbouti" for me...
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I may understimate it a little bit, but I think the best way to learn a language is to use it interactively. Watching movies is a good additional activity, but my experience shows that they didn't play such an important role... neither did "sing-song" activities. I actually started using films as an instrument for learning only when I started to work on my interpreting skills, in that way it really is useful: you learn to understand different kinds of speech, accents, types of pronunciation, etc... See more I may understimate it a little bit, but I think the best way to learn a language is to use it interactively. Watching movies is a good additional activity, but my experience shows that they didn't play such an important role... neither did "sing-song" activities. I actually started using films as an instrument for learning only when I started to work on my interpreting skills, in that way it really is useful: you learn to understand different kinds of speech, accents, types of pronunciation, etc... and ▲ Collapse
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I happen to know a certain person who started watching cartoons. He described it as watching day after day, almost obsessively as a child whose parents were at work most of the time and... at some point, something clicked. He started understanding more and more, until English developed alongside L1, although there was practically no live interaction with native speakers. Maybe it was just a special case, but I'm against dubbing cartoons.
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My first reply didn't show up... Amy, I just wanted to say that "Orfeu Negro" played a big part for me, too, in launching my love affair with Brazil. I have seen it countless times and never get tired of it. Once it was screened at the Brazilian American Cultural Institute in Washington. The Director, like me, had seen it more than 30 times. He said he hadn't planned to watch it, but the minute it started he was riveted again, after all the years... I have a faced VCR tape; would love to get a D... See more My first reply didn't show up... Amy, I just wanted to say that "Orfeu Negro" played a big part for me, too, in launching my love affair with Brazil. I have seen it countless times and never get tired of it. Once it was screened at the Brazilian American Cultural Institute in Washington. The Director, like me, had seen it more than 30 times. He said he hadn't planned to watch it, but the minute it started he was riveted again, after all the years... I have a faced VCR tape; would love to get a DVD with the original colors. ▲ Collapse
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Erik Matson
Tailandia
Local time: 12:16
inglés al noruego
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| www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 7, 2010 |
It is great that youths these learn English from music, television, internet and the likes (if it weren't for hip-hop, I'd be speaking to my wife only in Thai), but I totally agree with Ana that the best way to learn (and master) a language is to use it interactively". Nothing can match real-life experience! Like Miss "Interlangue" I was bilingual from the start (having a Norwegian mother and British father and having lived almost exactly half my life in the U.S. and the other half in Norway), a... See more It is great that youths these learn English from music, television, internet and the likes (if it weren't for hip-hop, I'd be speaking to my wife only in Thai), but I totally agree with Ana that the best way to learn (and master) a language is to use it interactively". Nothing can match real-life experience! Like Miss "Interlangue" I was bilingual from the start (having a Norwegian mother and British father and having lived almost exactly half my life in the U.S. and the other half in Norway), and while I can't help but read the "subtitles" when watching American programming on Norwegian television, it isn't much of an educational source, but rather a source of a "good laugh" at some of the God-awful translations provided by the the subtitlers. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Nicole Schnell
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:16
inglés al alemán
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In Memoriam | www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 7, 2010 |
One important aspect: You learn proper pronunciation. Teachers hardly ever are native speakers, and the first thing you learn at school is to speak with an accent. Songs and watching movies help a lot.
| | | | Richard Jenkins
Brasil
Local time: 02:16
Miembro 2006
portugués al inglés
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| www.proz.com/polls/8558 comments | Feb 7, 2010 |
I'd say a 'rather' important role. I nearly always read books in Portuguese, the TV is ALWAYS on (and I have to frequently turn it off - those pesky kids ) and I sometimes watch films in, God forbid, dubbed Portuguese at the cinema (btw, is that a sin if others prefer to see dubbed PT rather than English subtitles?). The only question is; what's the difference between a "fairly important" and a "quite an important" role, here in t... See more I'd say a 'rather' important role. I nearly always read books in Portuguese, the TV is ALWAYS on (and I have to frequently turn it off - those pesky kids ) and I sometimes watch films in, God forbid, dubbed Portuguese at the cinema (btw, is that a sin if others prefer to see dubbed PT rather than English subtitles?). The only question is; what's the difference between a "fairly important" and a "quite an important" role, here in this question? I wasn't sure which one to vote for. ▲ Collapse
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