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siempre y cuando no haya sido cierta dicha declaración
sin necesidad de procedimiento judicial de reconocimiento
Jul 20, 2019 12:12
4 yrs ago
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español term

Gente que trabaja y logra en grande

español al inglés Otros Gobierno / Política Mexican Driver\'s License
This is the logo on the top of the driver's license. Would it be "A government that works and succeeds copiously"?
Proposed translations (inglés)
3 hardworking people who achieve great goals
1 hardworking and excellent or exceptional or outstanding performers or staff

Discussion

Muriel Vasconcellos Jul 20, 2019:
Agree with ... Charles' suggestion as revised.
Muriel Vasconcellos Jul 20, 2019:
On the other hand When we translate a certificate, the end user wants to know what everything in the document means. I've had more than one client ask me to translate letterhead slogans, official seals, stamps, form numbers in the bottom corner of a page, and all other kinds of "irrelevant" material. If you don't know what it says, you don't know if it's irrelevant.
Marie Wilson Jul 20, 2019:
Well put, Carol.That is what I wanted to say but didn't express myself very well. I often translate slogans for my clients, but they own the slogans. Translating a government sloga and putting it in the glossary might make it look official and the intellectual property police might object.
There is a mention of the slogan here:https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/gobierno-del-estado-...
Carol Gullidge Jul 20, 2019:
If it does need translating, then I like Charles''s version with YESHWANT's "strive". A bit like Per Ardua ad Astra.

@ YESHWANT: yes, of course we transcreate slogans all the time, but I think Franglish has a point that this one might already have some official translation lurking somewhere. In any case, I think I'd be wary of making this translation sound like THE official English version
YESHWANT UMRALKAR Jul 20, 2019:
I personally do not see an issue in translating slogans. Most Francophone countries have slogans which appear on all government letterheads like "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" which are routinely translated into other languages
YESHWANT UMRALKAR Jul 20, 2019:
I'd go with Charles' version "People who work and achieve great things" with the option of replacing the word 'work' with 'strive', making it "People who strive and achieve great things"
Marie Wilson Jul 20, 2019:
My point is the legality of translating a slogan without the author's permission. Obviously the task at hand is to translate the document, but the actual slogan might be an issue. And I agree with franglish that not relevant. Maybe translating so many privacy policies is making me paranoid.
Charles Davis Jul 20, 2019:
Official translation? There might be one, but I doubt it. It's for internal use in Mexico; I can't see why the Mexican authorities would have an English version of it or who it would be for. The Mexican federal and state governments assume everyone they're addressing speaks Spanish; they don't seem to commission English versions of their material, as the Spanish government does, for example, at least to a limited extent.

I doubt you're the first person to translate it, but a quick Google search doesn't lead me to any online version.

"People who work hard and achieve great things" would be reasonably idiomatic (IMO), if you want to give a fairly literal version. But of course, as Carol says, there are endless other ways of expressing the same idea.
franglish Jul 20, 2019:
@Anna Each state in Mexico has its own driver's license, yours is from the Estado de Méjico, the only one I could find with this logo. I for one wouldn't translate it as it's not pertinent information.
Carol Gullidge Jul 20, 2019:
The possibilities are endless There are countless possible ways of expressing this, which is why I agree with Marie that you should look for an existing official translation. If you google it, you’ll see that you’re not the first to translate very similar phrases
Barbara Cochran, MFA Jul 20, 2019:
"Workers who are a great success"? "Workers who succeed tremendously"? Meaning "government workers who..."? "Workers who are here to to achieve/do their best for you"? "Government workers who do their best for you"?
Marie Wilson Jul 20, 2019:
If this is a government slogan, should it be translated? There might be an official translation of it somewhere.
Carol Gullidge Jul 20, 2019:
Hmmm, “ succeeds copiously”
The two words do not really go together (collocate) to my Anglo-saxon ears

Proposed translations

2 horas

hardworking and excellent or exceptional or outstanding performers or staff

several options:

hardworking and excellent or exceptional or outstanding performers or staff

sources:

TIL that Mexicans have the highest average annual hours worked in ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/.../til_that_mexicans_have_the_high...
Jul 2, 2017 - Mexican laws mandate a maximum of 48 hours of work per week, but ... longer hours, because your compensation is tied to company performance. ..... put actual extended work hours on the books as an expected unpaid overtime. ..... Mexicans moving here are hardworking and looking for a way to get fairly ...

Real Reasons Why Your Employees Are Always Late | Mitrefinch Inc
https://mitrefinch.com › Human Resources
Mar 7, 2017 - ... and is one of the key contributors or exceptional performers in your company. ... The difference between the hardworking employee and the ...

How to Demotivate Your Best Employees - HBS Working Knowledge ...
https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/how-to-demotivate-your-best-emplo...
Apr 8, 2013 - They felt that 'I'm a hard worker, and now they're giving awards for something like ..... or a trip to Mexico or the Bahamas or some other top rate location. .... Instead ,it is better to give an award for an outstanding performer as ...

5th visit to The Royal- Best Resort in Mexico!!! - Review of Hilton ...
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g150812-d530483-...
We have been to Mexico many times. This was our 5th trip ... They were amazing and all the performers deserve recognition. The fire show ... So fun! The staff at The Royal Playa is exceptional also. ..... Hardworking, excellent staff. We had 35 ...
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