| Páginas sobre el tema: < [1 2] | Tired of KudoZ askers awarding points too quickly! Autor de la hebra: Nikita Kobrin
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vesparosa (X)
Local time: 21:28
italiano al inglés
| Chill out everyone :-) | Aug 25, 2002 |
What exactly is the problem here? KudoZ is for the benefit of the asker, so when you are given an answer you like, then why not take it? Okay, so perhaps wrong answers are put into the Glossary, but the glossary, as with ANY WEB OR INDEED PAPER PRINTED RESOURCE should be taken with a pinch of salt. I NEVER trust dictionary entries 100% -I\'m sorry but this forum topic seems to have been blown out of all proportion.
Valium anyone?  ... See more What exactly is the problem here? KudoZ is for the benefit of the asker, so when you are given an answer you like, then why not take it? Okay, so perhaps wrong answers are put into the Glossary, but the glossary, as with ANY WEB OR INDEED PAPER PRINTED RESOURCE should be taken with a pinch of salt. I NEVER trust dictionary entries 100% -I\'m sorry but this forum topic seems to have been blown out of all proportion.
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| | | | vesparosa (X)
Local time: 21:28
italiano al inglés
| Chill out everyone :-) | Aug 25, 2002 |
What exactly is the problem here? KudoZ is for the benefit of the asker, so when you are given an answer you like, then why not take it? Okay, so perhaps wrong answers are put into the Glossary, but the glossary, as with ANY WEB OR INDEED PAPER PRINTED RESOURCE should be taken with a pinch of salt. I NEVER trust dictionary entries 100% -I\'m sorry but this forum topic seems to have been blown out of all proportion.
Valium anyone? ... See more What exactly is the problem here? KudoZ is for the benefit of the asker, so when you are given an answer you like, then why not take it? Okay, so perhaps wrong answers are put into the Glossary, but the glossary, as with ANY WEB OR INDEED PAPER PRINTED RESOURCE should be taken with a pinch of salt. I NEVER trust dictionary entries 100% -I\'m sorry but this forum topic seems to have been blown out of all proportion.
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| | | | vesparosa (X)
Local time: 21:28
italiano al inglés
| Chill out everyone :-) | Aug 25, 2002 |
What exactly is the problem here? KudoZ is for the benefit of the asker, so when you are given an answer you like, then why not take it? Okay, so perhaps wrong answers are put into the Glossary, but the glossary, as with ANY WEB OR INDEED PAPER PRINTED RESOURCE should be taken with a pinch of salt. I NEVER trust dictionary entries 100% -I\'m sorry but this forum topic seems to have been blown out of all proportion.
Valium anyone? ... See more What exactly is the problem here? KudoZ is for the benefit of the asker, so when you are given an answer you like, then why not take it? Okay, so perhaps wrong answers are put into the Glossary, but the glossary, as with ANY WEB OR INDEED PAPER PRINTED RESOURCE should be taken with a pinch of salt. I NEVER trust dictionary entries 100% -I\'m sorry but this forum topic seems to have been blown out of all proportion.
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| | | | vesparosa (X)
Local time: 21:28
italiano al inglés
| Apologies for multiple posting | Sep 1, 2002 |
Sorry that my message got posted (gulp!) four times..
Apologies to all
Fiona
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| How can the Asker know | Sep 26, 2002 |
Hi everybody, sometimes I\'m also disappointed and It has happened to me that the question awarded didn\'t match exactly. But let me ask a philosophical question: if the asker raises the question often based on a lack of knowledge,how can he then judge what is correct or wrong? Very often he can only rely on his own intuition. I would also add that translation is not mathematics.
Well no exactly
Kind Regards wildlp ... See more Hi everybody, sometimes I\'m also disappointed and It has happened to me that the question awarded didn\'t match exactly. But let me ask a philosophical question: if the asker raises the question often based on a lack of knowledge,how can he then judge what is correct or wrong? Very often he can only rely on his own intuition. I would also add that translation is not mathematics.
Well no exactly
Kind Regards wildlp ))
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| | | | Ralf Lemster 
Alemania
Local time: 21:28
inglés al alemán
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| Community assistance | Sep 26, 2002 |
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On 2002-09-26 14:20, willdlp wrote:
if the asker raises the question often based on a lack of knowledge,how can he then judge what is correct or wrong?
There are various ways to find out which answer is the most appropriate one (note that I deliberately avoid terms such as \"right\" or \"wrong\"):
- Answerers\' experience (as indicated in their profile, probably on their web ... See more Quote:
On 2002-09-26 14:20, willdlp wrote:
if the asker raises the question often based on a lack of knowledge,how can he then judge what is correct or wrong?
There are various ways to find out which answer is the most appropriate one (note that I deliberately avoid terms such as \"right\" or \"wrong\"):
- Answerers\' experience (as indicated in their profile, probably on their web site, to a lesser extent by their number of KudoZ)
- Grading by peers
- Experience of those adding peer grading comments.
What\'s required to make this process work, of course, is to leave the question open long enough (what period is \"long enough\" can differ, according to the complexity of the query).
Finally, the glossary entries are checked by other members as well as by moderators, and can be edited. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | emphatic yes - for being paid well | Oct 1, 2002 |
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On 2002-08-20 23:36, fronterizo wrote:
... it is part of the job they are being paid to do (paid well, I hope).
I agree with every word! And most especially I hope those who come to the colleagues for lots of help with specialized terms also got the job they got without outlandishly underbidding the very same more experienced colleagues. Do hope this is not being too blunt, but there d... See more Quote:
On 2002-08-20 23:36, fronterizo wrote:
... it is part of the job they are being paid to do (paid well, I hope).
I agree with every word! And most especially I hope those who come to the colleagues for lots of help with specialized terms also got the job they got without outlandishly underbidding the very same more experienced colleagues. Do hope this is not being too blunt, but there does seem to be a problem here. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Thierry LOTTE
Local time: 21:28
Miembro 2001
inglés al francés
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| The Worst of All | Oct 1, 2002 |
Well !
Everything is understadable knowing that the first one who replies have 80 % of chances to win the poll !...
Also ( after checking with my \"customers at first sight\" ) the KudoZ points influence the customer to choose you... ( I know that a bunch of translators will be very angry but pls forgive me - it\'s true...).
BUT THE WORST OF ALL is when a wrong translation is choosen when you are confident that your was the (of course) only good one...
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Bourth (X)
Local time: 21:28
francés al inglés
| Not best but helpful | Oct 14, 2002 |
I\'m a newcomer here on ProZ, but I note that everyone tends to talk about \"THE answer\" to a question. Rule 3 says \"Asker awards points to MOST HELPFUL answer\". Maybe this should be stressed and restressed. An answer coming in after a previous CORRECT answer might actually contain more USEFUL information than that answer. Of course that implies a dash of Asker Education so they use ProZ \"correctly\" (as I see it).
| | | | Ralf Lemster
Alemania
Local time: 21:28
inglés al alemán
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| What do you do when faced with the "worst of all"? | Oct 14, 2002 |
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BUT THE WORST OF ALL is when a wrong translation is choosen when you are confident that your was the (of course) only good one...
Unfortunately you didn\'t say what you do in such cases. Let me tell you what I do: I contact the asker and explain why I believe the chosen answer was wrong. This is not about gaining KudoZ, of course.
If you believe an incorrect term was chosen for the glo... See more Quote:
BUT THE WORST OF ALL is when a wrong translation is choosen when you are confident that your was the (of course) only good one...
Unfortunately you didn\'t say what you do in such cases. Let me tell you what I do: I contact the asker and explain why I believe the chosen answer was wrong. This is not about gaining KudoZ, of course.
If you believe an incorrect term was chosen for the glossary, do not hesitate to edit it (as far as I can see, your KudoZ total should allow you to do so). If you\'re not 100% sure, contact the moderator for the language pair concerned. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Ralf Lemster
Alemania
Local time: 21:28
inglés al alemán
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| Response to Nikita | Oct 14, 2002 |
Sorry, I was on holiday when you posted this, so my reply comes a bit late...
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On 2002-08-20 19:31, NIKITA wrote:
Dear Andrea,
1) I was too angry.
2) As far as I understand the KudoZ system nobody will be able to access my \"outstanding\" answer from the glossary for that simple reason that nobody will enter it into the glossary. You can find in the glossary only those term
... See more Sorry, I was on holiday when you posted this, so my reply comes a bit late...
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On 2002-08-20 19:31, NIKITA wrote:
Dear Andrea,
1) I was too angry.
2) As far as I understand the KudoZ system nobody will be able to access my \"outstanding\" answer from the glossary for that simple reason that nobody will enter it into the glossary. You can find in the glossary only those terms (answers) which have been entered there by Askers or by pros-winners.
Nikita
Not quite. It\'s true that the original entry is generally made by the asker or the answerer whose proposal was chosen as the most helpful. But glossary entries can be edited (by ProZ members with a certain minimum number of KudoZ or by moderators) - so if you believe a wrong answer was chosen, don\'t get angry - contact the moderator for the language pair involved.
HTH - Ralf ▲ Collapse
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