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Nikita Kobrin
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# Nov 27, 2010

Suzan Hamer wrote:

Imagine UNltd.


Great!

NK

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Edward Potter
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Cosmic Justice Nov 27, 2010

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but saying, "I'm for world peace" is as impotent as a castrati's little junk, while tyrants snigger.

The way we achieve peace is to stand up to tyranny, and if it gets violent, you respond in kind. That tank guy in China is still in jail, even after all the little protesters complaining about it all the time. His peace friends have been oppressed in one way or another as well. The fastest way to uproot the Chinese ruling thugs will be through viol
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Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but saying, "I'm for world peace" is as impotent as a castrati's little junk, while tyrants snigger.

The way we achieve peace is to stand up to tyranny, and if it gets violent, you respond in kind. That tank guy in China is still in jail, even after all the little protesters complaining about it all the time. His peace friends have been oppressed in one way or another as well. The fastest way to uproot the Chinese ruling thugs will be through violence, not peace chains.

Lord Chamberlain and the rest produced World War II because they said, essentially, "give peace a chance". No, you stomp out tyrants, in this case Hitler, with forceful violence.

Lennon was pretty weak in the philosophy category. I'll take P.J. O'Rourke over him any day. Here he is: http://www.amazon.com/Give-War-Chance-P-J-ORourke/dp/0679742018



[Edited at 2010-11-27 21:57 GMT]
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Nikita Kobrin
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As I have noticed Nov 28, 2010

Edward Potter wrote:

The way we achieve peace is to stand up to tyranny, and if it gets violent, you respond in kind.


May be, may be... But as I have noticed among those who really oppose tyranny we can usually see more peace-oriented beads wearing yippies than aggressive but conformist ties wearing yuppies...

NK


 
Suzan Hamer
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Well, Edward, Nov 28, 2010

Edward Potter wrote:

saying, "I'm for world peace" is as impotent as a castrati's little junk, while tyrants snigger.



you know what fighting for peace is like.... (If not, google "Fighting for peace is like"). As Albert Camus said: "There are causes worth dying for, but none worth killing for." And Martin Luther King said: "War is a poor chisel to carve out tomorrows".

[Edited at 2010-11-29 00:50 GMT]


 
Ivan Rocha, CT
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I agree Nov 29, 2010

Edward Potter wrote:

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but saying, "I'm for world peace" is as impotent as a castrati's little junk, while tyrants snigger.

The way we achieve peace is to stand up to tyranny, and if it gets violent, you respond in kind. That tank guy in China is still in jail, even after all the little protesters complaining about it all the time. His peace friends have been oppressed in one way or another as well. The fastest way to uproot the Chinese ruling thugs will be through violence, not peace chains.

Lord Chamberlain and the rest produced World War II because they said, essentially, "give peace a chance". No, you stomp out tyrants, in this case Hitler, with forceful violence.

Lennon was pretty weak in the philosophy category. I'll take P.J. O'Rourke over him any day. Here he is: http://www.amazon.com/Give-War-Chance-P-J-ORourke/dp/0679742018



[Edited at 2010-11-27 21:57 GMT]


+1.

War and violence are needed - and indeed good -, when someone is standing against totalitarian deeds, regimes and persons. Platitudes about peace do nothing to boost our odds of achieving real peace.


 
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