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suesimons 
Local time: 12:28
portugués al inglés
I'm sure this has been asked before but how do I count the words in a .pdf document?
[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2006-04-12 18:48]
| | | | Giles Watson
Italia
Local time: 13:28
italiano al inglés
In Memoriam | It certainly has... | Apr 12, 2006 |
... and there are plenty of links here:
http://www.proz.com/post/326526#326526
You can find more relevant messages by typing "pdf" or "pdf count" in the "Search forums" box in the top righthand corner of this page.
HTH
Giles
| | | | | It depends.... | Apr 12, 2006 |
suesimons wrote:
I'm sure this has been asked before but how do I count the words in a .pdf document?
[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2006-04-12 18:48]
If the file has been created as .pdf document, one option is copying text to Word, another one is using a special programm for word count.
But if the file has been created as a picture - the text is scanned and then made as .pdf document, the only option is manual counting.
Regards,
Kristine
| | | | | Word and ABBy | Apr 12, 2006 |
Kristine Lielause wrote:
... one option is copying text to Word.....
But if the file has been created as a picture.....
Kristine
I would like to add something to Kristine's suggestion:
I usually do it by copying and pasting on Word, but be careful! Some words may become joined, and objects with readings won't be taken into account. So before clicking on "word-count" see the whole Word.doc over to separate possible word unions and treat objects separatedly.
Secondly, when it has been created as a picture, you could use AbbyFinder to transform "objects" (one pdf page copied) into "words", but truth to tell, I am not sure what happens when pdf's texts are too long. I habitually use AbbyF when dealing with individual pictures with words in-between.
Hope it helps!
McN
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Hello!!
If the file isn't an image, I use Practicount&Invoice, a really nice and simple software counting words from every type of document.
It also generates invoices and many other things.
You can download a shareware version here:
http://www.practiline.com/download.htm
Bye!!
Davide
| | | | aitteam
Ucrania
Local time: 14:28
Miembro 2009
inglés al ucraniano
| Word count in pdf, images, and 30 more file formats | Jul 28, 2009 |
Hello,
We have just released new version of our word count software. It is called AnyCount and is used by more than 5000 people worldwide. I am sure colleagues on the forum may give their opinion on its pros and cons.
I will only mention new feature of version 7 - word count in BMP, JPG, PNG, and GIF files.
Best,
Vladimir.
| | | | | | Samuel Murray
Países Bajos
Local time: 13:28
Miembro 2006
inglés al afrikaans
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suesimons wrote:
How do I count the words in a .pdf document?
1. In your PDF viewer, press Ctrl+A and Ctrl+C, and then in MS Word, press Ctrl+V. If you can see the text, count it. If you can't see the text, go to step 2.
2. Use a good, expensive OCR program to convert the PDF into MS Word, and then use CompleteWordCount to count the text. If you don't want to use OCR, go to step 3.
3. Count the way we counted in the old days, by counting a few average lines and then multiplying the average by the average number of lines per page and the number of pages.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/CompleteWordCount/
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| Agree with Samuel | Jul 30, 2009 |
... on all points.
I would just add that if the file is an image, I usually print it and then scan it using the OCR function of my scanner.
In any event, pdf files necessarily mean extra time taken to prepare the source files, and I invoice that extra time to my customers (having made it clear that this is how I work before the order is confirmed).
| | | | Tony M
Francia
Local time: 13:28
Miembro
francés al inglés
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LOCALIZADOR DEL SITIO | Only for text-based PDFs? | Jul 31, 2009 |
Yes, but as far as I can ascertain from that website, it still only seems to count words in PDF files created directly from native text formats; so it still can't solve the problem of what to do when the PDF is in fact an image from some scanned document etc.
Like Michael G., I have occasionally had to resort to printing out the file and then OCRing it, which really does seem a roundabout way of doing things! Also a problem with poorer quality originals, particularly with fine print; however, the actual absolute accuracy of the OCR is fairly unimportant, as long as on average it produces about the right number of words; and in my exprience, it's a case of 'swings and roundabouts', and the end result is usually accurate enough; after all, it is hardly cost-effective to waste a lot of time producing a to-the-word accurate wordcount, since any discrepancy is likely to be fairly small.
As I translate mainly from FR > EN, I sometimes agree with the customer to base my charging on target word count + a percentage; generally, 10% seems about right for FR>EN, though on a statistical analysis I once did of a quite large number of files, I noticed variations from –16% to +5% in the FR > EN wordcount difference, so the variability is quite large! But I find most customers don't argue with 10% (they can see for themselves that the EN take up less space!), and it's not really worthwhile wasting time trying to get greater accuracy.
In passing, I'd just like to mention one customer who requested specifically that I not reduce my EN translation by more than 5% compared to the FR, for DTP reasons! Better still, this particular customer pays me by target wordcount anyway! However, in the particular field I was working in, it was actually extremely difficult to comply!
| | | | Igor Moshkin
Federación Rusa
Local time: 18:28
inglés al ruso
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| CHEN-Ling
Local time: 19:28
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Michael GREEN wrote:
... on all points.
I would just add that if the file is an image, I usually print it and then scan it using the OCR function of my scanner.
In any event, pdf files necessarily mean extra time taken to prepare the source files, and I invoice that extra time to my customers (having made it clear that this is how I work before the order is confirmed).
This is what I want to say. Actually a single OCR software, such as Shocr7.0 is enough. Usually I first save the PDF file as tiff file, then I open the saved tiff files in Shocr 7.0 and transform them into text. Finally copy these text on a word file and count.
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SO easy to use (no install). De diez !
| | | | Tam Nguyen
Vietnam
Local time: 18:28
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| count words in PDF | Jan 22, 2010 |
PierreF wrote: SO easy to use (no install). De diez !
Tried it! That's OK and easy.
| | | | | Second vote for PractiCount | Mar 26, 2010 |
We have been using PractiCount for a couple years and love it. It's easy to use. It's versatile and customizable. And the counts are quite accurate (even for Asian chars, lines, pages, etc.). It counts almost every file format I have needed: Word, Excel, PPT, PDF, HTML..... PractiCount also offers the flexibility to export reports or professional-looking invoices, if you need those features.
A customer just sent us a new PDF document complete with embedded CAD drawings.
I tri... See more We have been using PractiCount for a couple years and love it. It's easy to use. It's versatile and customizable. And the counts are quite accurate (even for Asian chars, lines, pages, etc.). It counts almost every file format I have needed: Word, Excel, PPT, PDF, HTML..... PractiCount also offers the flexibility to export reports or professional-looking invoices, if you need those features.
A customer just sent us a new PDF document complete with embedded CAD drawings.
I tried the standard route of Adobe Acrobat's save-as function. Low-ball word count because most of the images remained images - not editable text.
Next I tried the OCR tool ABBYY PDF Transformer (another tool I love!!). Fair results. At least ABBYY converted most of the images to text, but it still looked incomplete for estimating purposes.
Then I resorted to PractiCount. Somehow PractiCount came up with 2000 words higher than either of the other two approaches.
Note: Over the years, I have found that the success of OCR tools varies with the nature of the image and layout. ABBYY seems to be among the best (especially for foreign or multi-language docs and for retaining layout that a translator can use). But not always. Sometimes OmniPage or another OCR tool simply has better luck for a creative design layout. It seems to be a matter of trial and error with those scans or embedded images.
Good luck,
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