Sep 21, 2021 13:39
2 yrs ago
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French term
espaces non imperméabilisés
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Architecture
Objection to a planning permit issued on a French-speaking Caribbean island. Here it is basically saying that the plan is in breach of the planning regs because, it is claimed, there isn't a high enough percentage of planted or non-imperméabilisé area in the proposed plan. Or that the plans aren't clear enough. Most of the building plot is located in zone "TJ". NB these sorts of acronyms disguised. AAA is the name of the island.
"2.2.3.- En ce qui concerne l'insuffisance des données fournies aux fins d'appréciation du respect des dispositions relatives aux espaces libres non imperméabilisés et végétalisés"
"Il sera rappelé que l'article V10 du règlement de la carte d'urbanisme précise les règles relatives à la part des espaces libres non imperméabilisée et part végétalisée que doivent comporter les terrains relevant des zones TJ, TR et TRa :"
"Dans les zones TJ, TR et TRa, une part du terrain doit rester non imperméabilisée et une part doit être végétalisée: selon les proportions figurant sur le tableau suivant :"
It then apparently switches terminology, for this next bit using the term espaces perméables. However, it can be seen that reference is being made to the same section of the regulations (V10).
"4.1.6.- En ce qui concerne la méconnaissance des dispositions de l'article V10 de la carte d'urbanisme de AAA
Enfin, et comme il a été précédemment démontré, le projet méconnait les dispositions de l'article V10 de la carte d'urbanisme de AAA, relatif aux espaces perméables et aux espaces végétalisés que doivent comprendre les projets en zone TJ :"
"4.1.7.1.- Concernant les espaces perméables :
Les dispositions de l'article V10 ne s'appliquent, comme il a été rappelé, qu'à la partie du terrain située en zone TJ, à l'exclusion de toute autre partie du terrain.
De sorte que la part d'espaces perméables exigés doit s'apprécier au regard de la seule superficie du terrain située en zone TJ - contrairement aux calculs erronés présentés par la société pétitionnaire.
La superficie de la parcelle AP 4067 située en zone TJ représentant 3 056 m2, au regard des mesures effectuées depuis le site de la Collectivité, le tableau suivant précise les superficies minimales d'espaces perméables qui devraient être présentes sur cette partie du terrain :"
My thought is "draining spaces"...
"2.2.3.- En ce qui concerne l'insuffisance des données fournies aux fins d'appréciation du respect des dispositions relatives aux espaces libres non imperméabilisés et végétalisés"
"Il sera rappelé que l'article V10 du règlement de la carte d'urbanisme précise les règles relatives à la part des espaces libres non imperméabilisée et part végétalisée que doivent comporter les terrains relevant des zones TJ, TR et TRa :"
"Dans les zones TJ, TR et TRa, une part du terrain doit rester non imperméabilisée et une part doit être végétalisée: selon les proportions figurant sur le tableau suivant :"
It then apparently switches terminology, for this next bit using the term espaces perméables. However, it can be seen that reference is being made to the same section of the regulations (V10).
"4.1.6.- En ce qui concerne la méconnaissance des dispositions de l'article V10 de la carte d'urbanisme de AAA
Enfin, et comme il a été précédemment démontré, le projet méconnait les dispositions de l'article V10 de la carte d'urbanisme de AAA, relatif aux espaces perméables et aux espaces végétalisés que doivent comprendre les projets en zone TJ :"
"4.1.7.1.- Concernant les espaces perméables :
Les dispositions de l'article V10 ne s'appliquent, comme il a été rappelé, qu'à la partie du terrain située en zone TJ, à l'exclusion de toute autre partie du terrain.
De sorte que la part d'espaces perméables exigés doit s'apprécier au regard de la seule superficie du terrain située en zone TJ - contrairement aux calculs erronés présentés par la société pétitionnaire.
La superficie de la parcelle AP 4067 située en zone TJ représentant 3 056 m2, au regard des mesures effectuées depuis le site de la Collectivité, le tableau suivant précise les superficies minimales d'espaces perméables qui devraient être présentes sur cette partie du terrain :"
My thought is "draining spaces"...
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +6 | permeable areas |
philgoddard
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| 5 | non-impervious (unsealed) open spaces |
Johannes Gleim
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| 4 | non-impervious surfaces |
Khadija Farkad
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Proposed translations
+6
31 mins
philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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72
Selected
permeable areas
If they haven't been "imperméabilisés", they're permeable. That's why, as you point out, they say "perméable" later in your text.
Gardens can soak up rain, unlike paving, tarmac and concrete which are less porous and increase the amount of rainwater that runs off by as much as 50 percent. ...To avoid this problem, use **permeable paving** and keep hard surfaces to a minimum.
http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=878
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeable_paving
Gardens can soak up rain, unlike paving, tarmac and concrete which are less porous and increase the amount of rainwater that runs off by as much as 50 percent. ...To avoid this problem, use **permeable paving** and keep hard surfaces to a minimum.
http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=878
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeable_paving
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Robert Such
31 mins
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| agree |
Andrew Bramhall
40 mins
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| agree |
tradu-grace
1 hr
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| agree |
Lara Barnett
2 hrs
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| agree |
Kim Metzger
6 days
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| agree |
AllegroTrans
7 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Yes, seems to be it. My mind naturally inclines to wonder why they didn't use the perfectly fit-for-purpose word <i>perméable</i> all the way through. Mystery."
53 mins
Khadija Farkad
Morocco
Morocco
Morocco
Ph.D. in linguistics
Native in: Arabic (Variants: Algerian, Egyptian, Moroccan) 
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, French to Arabic, and 1 more.
non-impervious surfaces
non-impervious surfaces are water retaining surfaces that catches precipitations and help it infiltrate below the soil. Replacing natural land cover (permeable surfaces) by parking lots and streets (impervious surfaces) degrades the quality and quantity of runoff water.
1 hr
Johannes Gleim
Works in field
40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
8
non-impervious (unsealed) open spaces
En écologie et en hydraulique urbaine, une surface imperméabilisée est une zone où le ruissellement des eaux de pluie est prédominant, et leur percolation très limitée. Il s'agit des surfaces bétonnées: routes, parkings, entrées de garage, toits, aires de stockage. Les eaux de pluies ne pénétrant pas dans le sol, ruissellent et sollicitent en aval les réseaux d’égouttage et saturent les installations d'assainissement des eaux usées. Elles peuvent également conduire à des crues violentes et provoquer en aval des inondations.
Parking lots are highly impervious.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_imperméabilisée
Impervious surfaces are mainly artificial structures—such as pavements (roads, sidewalks, driveways and parking lots, as well as industrial areas such as airports, ports and logistics and distribution centres, all of which use considerable paved areas) that are covered by water-resistant materials such as asphalt, concrete, brick, stone—and rooftops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impervious_surface
Testing methods for pervious concrete - Infiltration rate
ISO 17785-1:2016 • Current, Under Review • 27 May 2016
https://shop.bsigroup.com/products/testing-methods-for-pervi...
ISO 17785-1:2016
Méthodes d'essai pour ciments perméables — Partie 1: Taux d'infiltration
https://www.iso.org/fr/standard/60531.html
Term: impermeable stratum
Reliability: 3
Term:
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Note added at 3 hrs (2021-09-21 17:03:06 GMT)
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Sorry, some HTML signs were written wongly and break my list of references. I restored it and to add it again.
Term: impermeable stratum
Reliability: 3
impervious layer
Reliability: 3
Definition: Corps (couche, massif) de roches saturées, très faiblement conducteur d'eau souterraine, dans lequel le captage de quantités d'eau appréciables n'est pas possible dans des conditions éco nomiques acceptables, et à travers lequel aucun flux de drainance significatif ne peut passer
Term: couche imperméable
Reliability: 3
Term: plancher imperméable
Reliability: 3
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1154816/en-fr
ISO 17785-1:2016
Méthodes d'essai pour ciments perméables — Partie 1: Taux d'infiltration
Indisponible en français
https://www.iso.org/fr/standard/60531.html
14/30266738 DC
BS ISO 17785-1. Test methods for pervious concrete. Part 1. Infiltration rate
https://www.en-standard.eu/14-30266738-dc-bs-iso-17785-1-tes...
impervious adjective
Synonyms & Antonyms of impervious
not allowing penetration (as by gas, liquid, or light)
the material for this coat is supposed to be impervious to rain
Synonyms for impervious
impenetrable, impermeable, tight
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/impervious
Soil sealing should be reduced to 1 hectare a day until 2010, but still 8 hectares a day between 2007 and 2009 were sealed.
:
Sufficiently high areas of impervious cover in urban areas affect the water balance and water regulation at local and watershed scales.
https://ec.europa.eu/environment/archives/soil/pdf/sealing/S...
B1: Specify the area draining to each downpipe, rainwater tank and LPOD (includes both impervious and pervious areas)..
https://www.water.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/515...
Proposal for some context translation:
2.2.3 Concerning the insufficiency of the data provided for the assessment of the observance of the provisions relating to non-impervious (unsealed) and vegetated open spaces
"It will be recalled that article V10 of the regulations of the town planning map specifies the rules relating to the proportion of open spaces that are non-impervious (unsealed) to water and the proportion that are vegetated with vegetation that must be included on land in the TJ, TR and TRa zones
Parking lots are highly impervious.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_imperméabilisée
Impervious surfaces are mainly artificial structures—such as pavements (roads, sidewalks, driveways and parking lots, as well as industrial areas such as airports, ports and logistics and distribution centres, all of which use considerable paved areas) that are covered by water-resistant materials such as asphalt, concrete, brick, stone—and rooftops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impervious_surface
Testing methods for pervious concrete - Infiltration rate
ISO 17785-1:2016 • Current, Under Review • 27 May 2016
https://shop.bsigroup.com/products/testing-methods-for-pervi...
ISO 17785-1:2016
Méthodes d'essai pour ciments perméables — Partie 1: Taux d'infiltration
https://www.iso.org/fr/standard/60531.html
Term: impermeable stratum
Reliability: 3
Term:
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Note added at 3 hrs (2021-09-21 17:03:06 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
Sorry, some HTML signs were written wongly and break my list of references. I restored it and to add it again.
Term: impermeable stratum
Reliability: 3
impervious layer
Reliability: 3
Definition: Corps (couche, massif) de roches saturées, très faiblement conducteur d'eau souterraine, dans lequel le captage de quantités d'eau appréciables n'est pas possible dans des conditions éco nomiques acceptables, et à travers lequel aucun flux de drainance significatif ne peut passer
Term: couche imperméable
Reliability: 3
Term: plancher imperméable
Reliability: 3
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1154816/en-fr
ISO 17785-1:2016
Méthodes d'essai pour ciments perméables — Partie 1: Taux d'infiltration
Indisponible en français
https://www.iso.org/fr/standard/60531.html
14/30266738 DC
BS ISO 17785-1. Test methods for pervious concrete. Part 1. Infiltration rate
https://www.en-standard.eu/14-30266738-dc-bs-iso-17785-1-tes...
impervious adjective
Synonyms & Antonyms of impervious
not allowing penetration (as by gas, liquid, or light)
the material for this coat is supposed to be impervious to rain
Synonyms for impervious
impenetrable, impermeable, tight
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/impervious
Soil sealing should be reduced to 1 hectare a day until 2010, but still 8 hectares a day between 2007 and 2009 were sealed.
:
Sufficiently high areas of impervious cover in urban areas affect the water balance and water regulation at local and watershed scales.
https://ec.europa.eu/environment/archives/soil/pdf/sealing/S...
B1: Specify the area draining to each downpipe, rainwater tank and LPOD (includes both impervious and pervious areas)..
https://www.water.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/515...
Proposal for some context translation:
2.2.3 Concerning the insufficiency of the data provided for the assessment of the observance of the provisions relating to non-impervious (unsealed) and vegetated open spaces
"It will be recalled that article V10 of the regulations of the town planning map specifies the rules relating to the proportion of open spaces that are non-impervious (unsealed) to water and the proportion that are vegetated with vegetation that must be included on land in the TJ, TR and TRa zones
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
philgoddard
: This is the same as the previous answer, but with more references. As some of them show, impermeable and impervious are synonyms.
15 hrs
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And confirms my answer. No reason for " Neutral ". In fact, "non imperméabilisés" corresponds exactly to "not impermeable". Note: Please do not confuse "non-impervious" with "pervious". Same with "not impermeable"
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| neutral |
Steve Robbie
: Extra references for "unsealed" added below.
17 hrs
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Thank you!
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Reference comments
19 hrs
Steve Robbie
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Expertise, accuracy and style
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English, Dutch to English
Reference:
Some references for "sealed" and "unsealed"
"Unsealed", as suggested by Johannes, rings a bell with me, so I've added some references to support it.
A “sealed area” means any area where the original soil has been covered (such as roads) making it impermeable. This non-permeability can create environmental impacts
Par «surface imperméabilisée», il convient d'entendre toute surface (telle que les routes) dont le sol d'origine a été recouvert afin de rendre la surface imperméable. Cette non-perméabilité peut avoir des incidences sur l'environnement
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN-FR/TXT/?from=FR&u...
The road should be constructed to a specific engineering standard and have a sealed surface in order to qualify for this larger limit:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/u1-waste-exemption-use-of-waste-...
‘Loose bare’ substrate is intended to separate substrate potentially colonisable by plants from large expanses of sealed surface (concrete, tarmac, etc) where vegetation could only establish if it is broken up or heavily weathered
https://data.jncc.gov.uk/data/a81bf2a7-b637-4497-a8be-03bd50...
Surface Type [heading followed by list of ground coverings as below]
Sealed Surface – Bitumen
Sealed Surface – Concrete
Sealed Surface – Resin-bound aggregate
Permeable Surface – Rubber + Aggregate
Unsealed Surface - such as compacted / crushed or graded rock / stone
https://www.sustrans.org.uk/for-professionals/infrastructure...
A “sealed area” means any area where the original soil has been covered (such as roads) making it impermeable. This non-permeability can create environmental impacts
Par «surface imperméabilisée», il convient d'entendre toute surface (telle que les routes) dont le sol d'origine a été recouvert afin de rendre la surface imperméable. Cette non-perméabilité peut avoir des incidences sur l'environnement
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN-FR/TXT/?from=FR&u...
The road should be constructed to a specific engineering standard and have a sealed surface in order to qualify for this larger limit:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/u1-waste-exemption-use-of-waste-...
‘Loose bare’ substrate is intended to separate substrate potentially colonisable by plants from large expanses of sealed surface (concrete, tarmac, etc) where vegetation could only establish if it is broken up or heavily weathered
https://data.jncc.gov.uk/data/a81bf2a7-b637-4497-a8be-03bd50...
Surface Type [heading followed by list of ground coverings as below]
Sealed Surface – Bitumen
Sealed Surface – Concrete
Sealed Surface – Resin-bound aggregate
Permeable Surface – Rubber + Aggregate
Unsealed Surface - such as compacted / crushed or graded rock / stone
https://www.sustrans.org.uk/for-professionals/infrastructure...
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