planos

English translation: layers/sheets

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Spanish term or phrase:planos
English translation:layers/sheets
Entered by: liz askew

12:25 Jun 29, 2021
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / Kinesiology / anatomy
Spanish term or phrase: planos
It is a description of the Abdominal External and Internal Oblique muscles.

"Los músculos Abdominales
Oblicuos Mayor y Menor
(Obliquus Externus e Internus
Abdomini) facilitan que podamos
inclinar el tronco hacia un
lado y girarlo a la vez. Son
anchos, delgados y están
compuestos por diversos
planos que se extienden
desde la pelvis hasta las
costillas y el centro del
abdomen."

In this context, would a literal translation be appropriate? i.e. planos = planes
Daniel Álvarez Bromley
Local time: 16:42
layers
Explanation:

planos musculares normoecoides | Portuguese to English ...https://www.proz.com › kudoz › medical-general › 184...
English translation: Normal echoic pattern of muscle layers. Entered by ... Portuguese term or phrase: planos musculares normoecoides. This is one of the​ ...

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Internal Abdominal Oblique - Physiopediahttps://www.physio-pedia.com › Internal_Abdominal_...
It is broad and thin. it forms one of the layers of the lateral abdominal wall along with external oblique on the outer side and transverse abdominis on the inner ...

The Internal and External Oblique Muscles Its Attachments ...https://www.yoganatomy.com › external-and-internal-o...
9 Jan 2018 — The oblique muscles. The oblique muscles make up two of the three layers that create our abdominal walls. The third layer is the popular ...

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or, maybe better

sheets


internal oblique muscle - The Worlds of David Darlinghttps://www.daviddarling.info › encyclopedia › internal...
The internal oblique muscle is a broad, thin, muscular sheet that lies deep to the external oblique.
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liz askew
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Local time: 16:42
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3layers
liz askew
3 +1fibers
Cecilia Gowar
3 +1planes
Anne Schulz
Summary of reference entries provided
planes of motion
Muriel Vasconcellos

Discussion entries: 7





  

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35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
fibers


Explanation:
In terms of litearl translation I would use "layers" or "sheets"for "planos".
However each of these muscles seems to be a layer or sheet so I figure they are referring to fibers here.

Internal abdominal oblique is a muscle found on the lateral side of the abdomen. It is broad and thin. it forms one of the layers of the lateral abdominal wall along with external oblique on the outer side and transverse abdominis on the inner side. Its fibers are obliquely oriented hence the name. It helps maintain the abdominal pressure and movements of the trunk along with the other muscles.
https://www.physio-pedia.com/Internal_Abdominal_Oblique

Abdominal muscle, any of the muscles of the anterolateral walls of the abdominal cavity, composed of three flat muscular sheets, from without inward: external oblique, internal oblique, and transverse abdominis, supplemented in front on each side of the midline by rectus abdominis.
The first three muscle layers extend between the vertebral column behind, the lower ribs above, and the iliac crest and pubis of the hip bone below. Their fibres all merge toward the midline, where they surround the rectus abdominis in a sheath before they meet the fibres from the opposite side at the linea alba.

https://www.britannica.com/science/abdominal-muscle

Cecilia Gowar
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 240

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Carol Gullidge: Layers, I suspect! https://courses.lumenlearning.com/nemcc-ap/chapter/axial-mus...
16 mins

neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: I think it's a reference to the planes of motion in kinesiology.
7 hrs
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58 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
layers


Explanation:

planos musculares normoecoides | Portuguese to English ...https://www.proz.com › kudoz › medical-general › 184...
English translation: Normal echoic pattern of muscle layers. Entered by ... Portuguese term or phrase: planos musculares normoecoides. This is one of the​ ...

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Internal Abdominal Oblique - Physiopediahttps://www.physio-pedia.com › Internal_Abdominal_...
It is broad and thin. it forms one of the layers of the lateral abdominal wall along with external oblique on the outer side and transverse abdominis on the inner ...

The Internal and External Oblique Muscles Its Attachments ...https://www.yoganatomy.com › external-and-internal-o...
9 Jan 2018 — The oblique muscles. The oblique muscles make up two of the three layers that create our abdominal walls. The third layer is the popular ...

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Note added at 8 hrs (2021-06-29 20:29:46 GMT)
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or, maybe better

sheets


internal oblique muscle - The Worlds of David Darlinghttps://www.daviddarling.info › encyclopedia › internal...
The internal oblique muscle is a broad, thin, muscular sheet that lies deep to the external oblique.


liz askew
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Local time: 16:42
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Thanks.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ana Krämer: agree
1 hr

neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: I think it's a reference to the planes of motion in kinesiology.
6 hrs

agree  Anne Schulz: Layers or sheets is probably the better option, to avoid confusion with geometrical "planes"
17 hrs
  -> indeed, thank you!

agree  Kristina Love: agree with layers
1 day 1 hr
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
planes


Explanation:
I am just working on a book about muscles and fascia, and the repeated use of "(myo)fascial planes" in that book has given me trouble because I am not sure about the best way to put it in German ;-(

That said, the term "layers" is also used in the book. As far as I understand, this particular author seems to consider a "layer" to be thicker and less specific/circumscribed than a "plane".



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"'Fascial planes’ is also a concept. It is used to describe how adjacent structures slide relative to each other to facilitate movements in our bodies. As we move, parts of our bodies will need to move in different directions from each other without pulling on each other excessively for full range of motion. Any excessive pull will impede full range of motion. Understanding ‘fascial planes’ will help in understanding the nature of what constitutes ‘excessive pull’ and in understanding the dynamics involved in relieving it."
http://www.lafranomassagedynamics.com/fascial-planes-defined...




Anne Schulz
Germany
Local time: 17:42
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Native speaker of: German
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
3 hrs
  -> Thank you Muriel. However, based on said book (and others I have dealt with), I actually do not think that these myofascial "planes" has anything to do with geometric or anatomical planes in three-dimensional space.

neutral  liz askew: see https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/medical-general...
4 hrs
  -> Thank you liz. I am not sure how the proposed translation of "Muskelgeflecht" should affect the choice for translating "planos".
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Reference comments


7 hrs
Reference: planes of motion

Reference information:
The term 'plane' is used in kinesiology and is not synonymous with 'layer'. The main ones are the saggital, frontal, and transverse planes.

1. Basic Kinesiology Terminology | Musculoskeletal Keyhttps://musculoskeletalkey.com › 1-basic-kinesiology-te...
Aug 22, 2016 — CHAPTER 1 Basic Kinesiology Terminology CHAPTER OUTLINE ... Terms of Location, **4 Planes, 5 Motion of the Body within Planes**

Example sentence(s):
  • Structural kinesiology - study of muscles as they are involved in ... nearer to the median or midsagittal plane.

    https://blog.nhttps://andersonvillept.com/blog/planes-motion
    https://www.kean.edu/~jeadams/docs/Kinesiology/Kines_Power_Points/Kines_PPT_PDF_Chap1.pdf
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1508
Note to reference poster
Asker: Yes, I see. That would make sense in the context of the text. Thanks Muriel


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  liz askew: but "composed of planes of motion" doesn't make sense, this is an anatomical feature
25 mins
  -> The Asker made it clear that this is a text about kinesiology, and it's a term used in that field.
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