Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

hermandad \"de gloria\"

English translation:

non-penitential brotherhood / confraternity

Added to glossary by Mary Bauer
Apr 23, 2013 17:09
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term

hermandad "de gloria"

Spanish to English Other Religion the brotherhoods in Seville
There was one other question about "hermandad de gloria", but I don't agree with the response. It would seem that the hermandades are either 1) de penitencia (penance) or 2) de gloria... Perhaps worshipping a particular saint? While I have found many references to penance brotherhoods, cannot find the word or phrase that would be a brotherhood "de gloria".

El día 26 de enero del 2011 la Agrupación Parroquial Pasión y Muerte es nombrada hermandad de penitencia y gloria realizando su primera estación con nazarenos

HERMANDAD NUESTRA SEÑORA DEL CARMEN
Esta Hermandad de gloria fue aprobada canónicamente

HERMANDAD DE LA DIVINA PASTORA DE TRIANA
Hermandad de gloria con salida procesional en el tercer

La Hermandad de Madre de Dios del Rosario es una hermandad de gloria que tiene su salida procesional el 12 de octubre

Thanks for any light you can shine on the subject! Mary

Discussion

teju Apr 23, 2013:
As a court interpreter, oftentimes I have no choice but to render a literal translation when there is no equivalent term. Then it's up to them to ask "what's a "brotherhood of Glory"? I agree with Noni, if the reader wants to find out what it is, he can look it up. A note would be helpful too. By the way, I am a Spaniard, I went to college in Seville, and I did not know this.
Mary Bauer (asker) Apr 23, 2013:
Thank you Noni... And clients tend to say they don't want localization, but only translation... I HAVE added many a side note to this translation... M
Noni Gilbert Riley Apr 23, 2013:
Brotherhood of Glory The direct English translation is going to leave the reader none the wiser, although this seems to be the general practice. But then, how many Spaniards outside Seville know what it means in Spanish....

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non-penitential brotherhood / confraternity

I think this would be a better idea than the calque "brotherhood of glory", which really won't mean anything to a reader. I would be inclined to keep the original term and add this in parentheses. It's in line with the sources Noni has cited; the "hermandades de gloria" are those that are not "penitenciales".

Here's one source in support:

"In Spanish, the non-penitential confraternities are referred to as cofrades [sic] de gloria"
Jessica A. Boon, The Mystical Science of the Soul: Medieval Cognition in Bernardino de Laredo's Recollection Method, p. 207, n. 128.
http://books.google.es/books?id=1IsfJgSWqmoC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA...

Personally I usually translate "hermandad" or "cofradía" (they're the same thing) as "confraternity", but many people use "brotherhood", and I think either is OK.

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Here's another idea, though I'm not sure I would use it here. It's from an article by William Callahan called "Confraternities and Brotherhoods in Spain, 1500-1800", p. 24

"In Seville, the austere penitential confraternities of the late fifteenth and early sixteenth centuries gave way after 1570 to the "baroque confraternity" in which simplicity yielded to splendor manifested in the construction of costly statues for Holy Week processions and a variety of social activities "not in accord with the contemplation and imitation of the Passion of Christ."
http://archive.org/stream/confraternitasne12soci/confraterni...

By the way, this article consistently uses "confraternities" for "cofradías" and "brotherhoods" for "hermandades". I'm not sure whether that's essential, but you might as well go with "brotherhoods" here.
Peer comment(s):

agree Noni Gilbert Riley : Good angle.
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Thanks, Noni. I suspect "devotional" might be accurate, but I wouldn't stick my neck out that far.
agree philgoddard
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Thanks, Phil
agree Zilin Cui
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Thank you once again!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Yes, I like this answer. They are contrasted against the penitential brotherhoods, and are basically praising or worshipping a particular saint... Thanks!"
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Glorious Brotherhood

Wikipedia:
Las Hermandades letíficas, o de glorias, normalmente se ciñen a temas iconográficos que versan sobre la vida de los santos, la infancia de Jesús, o los misterios gloriosos de Nuestra Señora en sus distintas advocaciones.

Si yo lo estuviera traduciendo me dejaría llevar por los misterios gloriosos, o sea, the glorious mysteries y le pondría The Glorious Brotherhood o le dejaría "de gloria" y lo explicaría entre paréntesis.
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"De gloria" brotherhood

I see no problem here in repeating the community's name. I suspcet "de Gloria" Latin and not Spanish
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Hermandad de Gloria

Las distintas cofradías, según Wiki http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cofradía

"Penitenciales, las que hacen pública estación de penitencia en Semana Santa. Jesús Luengo reserva la denominación de cofradía para las hermandades penitenciales.
2 Sacramentales, las que cultivan, como obj$etivo básico, la devoción y adoración hacia el Santísimo Sacramento.
De Gloria, que es como se denomina, en algunas partes, a las hermandades que no encuadran en ninguno de los dos segmentos anteriores; normalmente, fomentan el culto a alguna advocación mariana o a algún santo."

A thorough rundown here: http://elcapirotero.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/tipologia-de-la...

"Esta denominación indica primariamente, desde la perspectiva sevillana, una carencia: el hecho de no ser hermandades de penitencia. Su culto es a imágenes que no tiene relación con los misterios pascuales. Normalmente son hermandades con poca cantidad de hermanos, aunque cada cual procesiona un día determinado."
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