Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

avrebbe concorso

English translation:

conspired

Added to glossary by Sarah Weston
Dec 1, 2009 17:30
14 yrs ago
Italian term

avrebbe concorso

Italian to English Law/Patents Law (general)
Can I use "conspired with" here or would that be too strong?

"[la Società A] avrebbe concorso con la Società B medesima alla realizzazione di un negozio in frode alla legge ai sensi dell’Art. XXX Codice Civile"
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conspired
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Proposed translations

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conspired

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Note added at 2 mins (2009-12-01 17:33:19 GMT)
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Since it's a crime, conspired is an appropriate translation.
Peer comment(s):

agree Elizabeth Hill Barsanti (X)
52 mins
Thank you!
agree simon tanner : stronger moral overtones than Oliver's, which may well be appropriate
57 mins
Thanks Simon.
agree Sarah Jane Webb
14 hrs
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Yes, this is what I already had and definitely best in the context - thanks!"
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16 mins

combined/participated

Garner's Dictionary of Modern Legal Usage (tasty) reckons that 'combined' is more neutral than 'conspired', so if you wanted to play it a bit safe then this might be a good way to go (and 'participated' comes out of Garzanti, see link).
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Having said that, Garner goes on to say that 'conspired' basically means that the two parties got together in the knowledge that at least one of them would be committing an offence as a result, so on that basis Phil may well be quite right depending on whether you think your two companies knew exactly what they were doing or not.
Peer comment(s):

agree simon tanner : like you say, a bit more neutral, but not necessarily the worse for that. The choice would depend on the overall tone of the document
44 mins
neutral James (Jim) Davis : Who writes these dictionaries? How are they selected? What qualifications do they have? Are they paid well? Should we be writing them instead of tranlsating? Are they.... ?
1 hr
agree Alessandra Vanni
2 hrs
agree Marcello Joseph SPADA
2 hrs
agree AlessiaBeneg
3 hrs
agree Edward Tully
1 day 6 hrs
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23 hrs

may have colluded

'conspired' looks OK, but maybe 'colluded' if a slightly more neutral word is appropriate - there is a difference in degree between conspiracy and collusion.

And doesn't the conditional "avrebbe" imply a cautious element of doubt, as in "it is alleged that A colluded/conspired with B" in a fraudulent transaction?
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Reference comments

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Reference:

conspired

De Franchis: "concorso delle persone nel reato" can be participated, but if both parties knowingly participated I think "conspired" is more accurate
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