Spanish term
Volumen Ordinario
Context: VOLUMEN ORDINARIO; MCCCXLVIl (MIL TRESCIENTOS CUARENTA Y SIETE).
4 +2 | General Volume (plus number) or Volume (plus number) General | Toni Castano |
3 +2 | Ordinary Record Book | patinba |
4 | Routine Notarial Protocol | Adrian MM. |
Proposed translations
General Volume (plus number) or Volume (plus number) General
Tomo (Am. Lat.: volumen) Libro Sección Folio Hoja
Volume Book Section Folio Page
The semicolon between “ordinario” and the Roman numbers puzzles me considerably. I think a comma should be there instead of the semicolon. Could this semicolon be a typo?
As for “ordinario” I would simply go for “General”, as such volumes (“volúmenes ordinarios”) seem to include issues of general concern, not specific topics or matters. There are two possibilities of putting this in English:
1) General Volume (plus Roman number)
2) Volume (plus Roman number) General
I personally prefer the second option. I would suggest "General" for “ordinario” because such volumes (“volúmenes ordinarios”) include issues of general concern, not entries related to specific issues. As for the tricky distinction between “volume” and “book”, the first term refers to a single book in a series, while the latter is usually a standalone publication.
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Tambien podra practicarse en los nuevos libros cualquier otro asiento de inscripcion no comprendido en el parrafo anterior. en este supuesto, el registrador extendera en el respectivo folio del libro antiguo, y a continuacion de la ultima inscripcion, una diligencia en la que hara constar el tomo, libro, sección, en su caso, y folio del nuevo libro en que continua la hoja registral.
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CAPÍTULO II
Del Protocolo
ARTÍCULO 72
El protocolo es el instrumento que el Estado entrega al notario para ejercer su función; tiene por finalidad constituir un sistema de matricidad con plenas garantías de legalidad y seguridad jurídica para conservar los actos y hechos jurídicos que pasen ante su fe.
Está constituido por el conjunto de libros cerrados o por folios que integran volúmenes abiertos, en los cuales el notario asienta y autoriza los instrumentos que se otorgan ante su fe; así como por el apéndice en el que se incorporan los documentos relacionados con ellos, con observancia en las formalidades de esta Ley.
ARTÍCULO 73
El protocolo cerrado es el volumen o juego de volúmenes, encuadernados sólidamente y empastados que constan de ciento cincuenta hojas cada uno.
El protocolo abierto es el volumen o conjunto de volúmenes formados por ciento cincuenta folios cada uno, numerados progresivamente y sellados o marcados por la Dirección de Notarías.
ARTÍCULO 74
El protocolo es propiedad del Estado, aunque el notario lo provea a su costa para ejercer su función. Es responsable administrativamente de la conservación y guarda del protocolo que obre en su poder, de su encuadernación y entrega a la Dirección de Notarías, en los términos establecidos por esta Ley.
Sólo el notario podrá extraer de la notaría los libros, folios y volúmenes que integren el protocolo y sus apéndices, en los casos determinados por la presente Ley, o para recabar firmas a los intervinientes, cuando éstos no puedan asistir a la notaría y el notario esté dispuesto a salir para recabarlas.
Ordinary Record Book
Proper Notary Journal Techniques
States’ laws vary widely on requirements regarding notary journals. The information that one state says must be captured in a journal may be considered unlawful in another state. As is our standard practice, the American Association of Notaries (AAN) wishes to impress upon readers that they must be mindful that laws vary from state to state. Also, please note that some states use the phrase “record book” to describe the volume in which notarial acts are recorded and other states use the word “journal.” The term “journal” will be used to represent them both in this article.
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philgoddard
: Anything like this will do.
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Thank you!
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Toni Castano
: My concern here is the rendering of "book" for "volumen". Please read below my thoughts on this.
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"General" is better, but I used "record book" because it is officially used in a notarial context in the US.
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AllegroTrans
: or General Record Book
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Yes. "General" might be better.
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Routine Notarial Protocol
'Anything like this (notarially) will *NOT* do' as misses the point of Roman Civil-Law Notarial Protocols (Volumes) still kept by City of London Notaries Pubic. See section 5-05, The Notarial Protocol, Brooke's Notary, Sweet & Maxwell, for those who could be bothered to read and study *closely and carefully* such weighty Tome and Volume..
it ordered the heirs of notaries who were not members of the profession themselves to bring their volumes (protocols) to the church of Santa Maria in Aracoeli to be kept in locked chests
The act, being a public document, is held in the protocol of the notary who notarised it, and copies thereof may be requested not only by the party commissioning it, but any other person who might have a legitimate interest in learning of its contents
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Toni Castano
: Hi Adrian. I agree with your statement "anything like this will NOT do", it is true what you say, but I disagree with your suggestion of "protocol" for "volumen", since a "volumen" is just a part of the protocol, but not the whole of it..
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AllegroTrans
: Toni appears to be correct concerning Protocol
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