Feb 25, 2022 18:25
2 yrs ago
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Spanish term
valientes
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Spanish to English
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Human Resources
Encouraging employees
SPAIN. This appears in a human resources memo to company employees after they took part in a software programming competition (I don't know if they won or not). The team may have been all men, but I'd like to use a gender-neutral term if possible. So far, my mind is a blank.
"Enhorabuena valientes, ¡sois muy cracks!"
"Enhorabuena valientes, ¡sois muy cracks!"
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | you heros |
patinba
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| 5 +2 | for being so brave |
Eileen Brophy
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| 4 +1 | congratulations valiant ones, .........! |
slothm
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| 4 +1 | all (of) you gutsy guys |
Barbara Cochran, MFA
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| 3 | you braves |
O G V
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| 3 | gallant ones |
Wyoming (X)
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| 3 | courageous |
Liliana Garfunkel
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Proposed translations
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1 hr
Selected
you heros
just because I don't think there would be any reason to call participants in a competition "brave". They won, which would make them heros.
Note from asker:
| This is actually what Iive pencilled in. Finding the Goldilocks option was surprisingly tough, and the whole translation is only thirty-five words, but I've spent about an hour on it so far. Cheers :-) |
| PS: "stars" is another good option. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: Or stars, maybe.
7 hrs
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yes, shoulda though of that!! Another good option. Thanks.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "In the end I like this the best in the context. I was also considering "champs"… Thanks to everyone for the help and comments. ¡Sois muy cracks!"
9 mins
you braves
Congratulations, you braves, you're amazing
As option
for your courage and determination
adapting
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Note added at 57 mins (2022-02-25 19:23:33 GMT)
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Corajous then...
Pero diría que han afrontado algún riesgo o peligro en la competición y que brave da buena cuenta
Sin ser nativo, no se me alcanza por qué no valdría para mujeres o cualquier género
As option
for your courage and determination
adapting
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Note added at 57 mins (2022-02-25 19:23:33 GMT)
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Corajous then...
Pero diría que han afrontado algún riesgo o peligro en la competición y que brave da buena cuenta
Sin ser nativo, no se me alcanza por qué no valdría para mujeres o cualquier género
Note from asker:
| I'd considered "braves", but thought it might be unsuitable. It's still a contender, though :-) |
| I have the same misgivings as Barbara about "braves", but thanks anyway. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Wyoming (X)
: For U.S. usage, “brave ones”
1 hr
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| neutral |
Barbara Cochran, MFA
: Too close to the idea of Native American warriors (Indian braves).
1 hr
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+2
1 hr
Eileen Brophy
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Spain
The Right Word Used in the Right Context
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
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11
for being so brave
This is what being "valiente" means
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 19:56:15 GMT)
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"Congratulations for being so brave/or for having so much bravery" is correct and there is no gender involved in that either.
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 19:56:15 GMT)
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"Congratulations for being so brave/or for having so much bravery" is correct and there is no gender involved in that either.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Wyoming (X)
: nice workaround
7 mins
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Thanks very much Wyoming
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| agree |
Elsa Caballero
2 hrs
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Thanks very much Elsa
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| neutral |
Barbara Cochran, MFA
: "for being so brave" sounds like something you might say to a three-year boy for mastering some skill he had previously been afraid to, or for doing something that shows he has courage, in a situation where it might not have been expected.
18 hrs
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OK
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1 hr
gallant ones
Another way of saying valiente, if the image of the knight in shining armor is preferred.
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 19:54:56 GMT)
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…another way of saying “valiant”
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 19:59:14 GMT)
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The imagery of “knight” is not so gender neutral. But for figurative jousting, why not?
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 20:00:20 GMT)
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Perhaps “dauntless” would be a better choice.
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 20:01:14 GMT)
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…souls that is.
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 19:54:56 GMT)
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…another way of saying “valiant”
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 19:59:14 GMT)
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The imagery of “knight” is not so gender neutral. But for figurative jousting, why not?
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 20:00:20 GMT)
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Perhaps “dauntless” would be a better choice.
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-25 20:01:14 GMT)
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…souls that is.
+1
9 hrs
congratulations valiant ones, .........!
Valiant is an accepted translation. Why noy use it?
Note from asker:
| Because it just doesn't feel right. In other contexts, I'd use it happily. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Wyoming (X)
: Right. Lest the obvious fly by
7 hrs
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+1
38 mins
Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
Laudable Lady Linguist
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
all (of) you gutsy guys
Explanation
I get the impression that the speaker is using speech that is rather informal.
And in the US, anyway, "guys" is an informal term that can refer to a group that includes both men AND women. Quite a common expression over here.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/brave
If you want to be more formal, though, I would go with something like "all you brave souls", which is also gender neutral.
"Gutsy" would mean that they went up against their competition, no holds barred.
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Or "you (guys) are all/really a bunch of gutsy competitors". Or a lot less literal, "you (guys) are all a bunch of courageous competitors".
In any event, the speaker seems to want to get across the idea that they all gave it their best shot, whether they won or not.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2022-02-25 21:24:34 GMT)
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"You guys are gutsy as hell!"
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Note added at 18 hrs (2022-02-26 13:20:21 GMT)
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Well then, how about something like "all you gutsy brainiacs", as in "techie nerds"?
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Note added at 19 hrs (2022-02-26 13:46:33 GMT)
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Or "brave brainiacs".
Note from asker:
| I've already used "guys" to translate "chicos" earlier in the text, so don't really want to repeat it, as the whole thing is only about thirty-five words. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Wyoming (X)
: like intrepid, daring
37 mins
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Thanks, Wyoming. I like "intrepid", too, but only if it would be followed by "souls".
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20 hrs
Liliana Garfunkel
Argentina
Argentina
Native in Spanish
Argentina
Reliable. Computing skills.
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
courageous
Congratulations, my courageous friends!
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