Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

valeur idéale

English translation:

ideal value

Added to glossary by Angelina Galanska
Dec 14, 2020 11:33
3 yrs ago
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French term

valeur idéale

French to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s)
doit s’agir de droits qui n’appartiennent pas au patrimoine d’une personne, ni ne sont étroitement liés à ses rapports juridiques patrimoniaux
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Discussion

Sanjin Grandić Dec 18, 2020:
Je ne comprends pas On veut aider le "asker", on reagit vite et on fat de notre mieux pour aider la personne qui a pose la question (desole pas de clavier Azerty sous la main) et c est tjrs la meme chose on doit pleurer pour avoir un peu plus de contexte. Ok on fait ca pour des points mais aussi car nous aimons tous les bons "brain teasers", mais dans ce manque de contexte on ne peut guere t'aider, la "valeur ideale" peut s associer logiquement a plein de domaines differents. J ai l impression de me trouver devant une Machine translation avec ton truc. Desole, bonne chance.
AllegroTrans Dec 18, 2020:
Contextless questions beget contextless answers
Daryo Dec 16, 2020:
Or to put it bluntly there is a minimum of background information you need to provide, otherwise don't expect anything else except wild guesses ...

From what I could find about "valeur idéale" of something that has a monetary value [this term is far more often used about "values" of all sorts of variables!] it would have nothing to do with some "rights" being held by one person rather than some other, so your explanation/comment "doit s’agir de droits qui n’appartiennent pas au patrimoine d’une personne" doesn't really clarify anything.

WHAT EXACTLY is supposed to have "une valeur idéale"?

At least one full sentence where this term is used?
AllegroTrans Dec 14, 2020:
Asker I notice from this and other questions of yours that you are not posting complete sentences. You really need to do so for others to get a handle. The more context you give, the more chance you have of getting good, reasoned answers rather than guesses
Sanjin Grandić Dec 14, 2020:
Context Veuillez mettre le terme recherche dans le contexte svp
philgoddard Dec 14, 2020:
Your context doesn't contain the phrase.
Angelina Galanska (asker) Dec 14, 2020:
ideal value
writeaway Dec 14, 2020:
What do you have so far? What has your own research shown?

Proposed translations

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ideal value

It's a value which has no connection with a person's assets, neither is it remotely connected with a legal report on a person's property or assets.

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Note added at 3 days 6 hrs (2020-12-17 18:30:47 GMT)
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The information provided suggests that the ideal value is another type of value which is separate from the monetary values associated with the person's property. The ideal value is not always the real value though it can be the peak value or estimated value before depreciation.

(L'information sugère que la valeur idéale est un autre type de valeur qui est séparée des valeurs monétaires en outre à la propriété de la personne. La valeur idéale n'est pas toujours la valeur réelle, mais elle peut être la valeur maximale ou la valeur estimée avant la dépréciation.)
Example sentence:

C'est une valeur qui n'a pas de lien avec les actifs ou avoirs d'une personne. Ce n'est pas près des rapports juridiques patrimoniaux ( ni de la propieté) de la personne.

Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : a literal translation "explained" by Asker's comments without having the first clue about what is really in the ST - not the best method.
1 day 14 hrs
disagree AllegroTrans : Anyone can come up with this, but exactly what does this mean in the specific legal CONTEXT?
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
5 hrs

(contract) target value

Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : Cannot see how you have such high level confidence for a question with almost zero context
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