des paquebots trop lourds à manœuvrer

English translation: like tankers that are becoming too hard to turn around

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French term or phrase:des paquebots trop lourds à manœuvrer
English translation:like tankers that are becoming too hard to turn around
Entered by: anna purna

10:25 Mar 20, 2009
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Bus/Financial - Management
French term or phrase: des paquebots trop lourds à manœuvrer
En définitive, société X et société Y en particulier ne sont-ils pas devenus des paquebots trop lourds à manœuvrer?

This is from a "question and answer" document, justifying economic "reorganization". I know there's a simile in English, but I can't quite remember it. It's driving me mad! Can anyone help me out? Too wieldy? Too wieldy to handle? But it's not steamships in English...Aarrgh !
anna purna
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Local time: 18:55
like tankers that are becoming too hard to turn around/becoming too set in their ways
Explanation:
or increasingly harder to turn around

Tankers are often used figuratively - though often in the sense of the problems of stopping something already set on a course.

If you want to get away from this maybe use something like "becoming too set in their ways"?

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or increasingly hard

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"Risk turning into dinosaurs" is another non-nautical possibility if we're talking about resistance to change and lack of innovation.
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John Peterson
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2lumbering/clumsy/cumbersome leviathans/juggernauts
Bourth (X)
3 +2like tankers that are becoming too hard to turn around/becoming too set in their ways
John Peterson
4liners that are too heavy to manoeuvre (see below)
margaret caulfield
4too big to be responsive
Graham macLachlan


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like tankers that are becoming too hard to turn around/becoming too set in their ways


Explanation:
or increasingly harder to turn around

Tankers are often used figuratively - though often in the sense of the problems of stopping something already set on a course.

If you want to get away from this maybe use something like "becoming too set in their ways"?

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Note added at 12 mins (2009-03-20 10:37:17 GMT)
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or increasingly hard

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Note added at 15 mins (2009-03-20 10:40:41 GMT)
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"Risk turning into dinosaurs" is another non-nautical possibility if we're talking about resistance to change and lack of innovation.

John Peterson
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Thank you !

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agree  cmwilliams (X): supertanker
43 mins
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agree  Alain Pommet: Trying to change course for GM at this point is like trying to turn a supertanker with a toothpick. GM just has too much inertia to change course in enough time to miss the iceberg.http://teslafounders.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/cash-incentive...
4 hrs
  -> thanks - I think I should have given supertankers in the answer as well
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liners that are too heavy to manoeuvre (see below)


Explanation:
Have company X and company Y not become liners that are too heavy to manouevre?

margaret caulfield
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too big to be responsive


Explanation:
unwieldy because they are too big

Graham macLachlan
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lumbering/clumsy/cumbersome leviathans/juggernauts


Explanation:
etc.

Leviathan has the advantage of a marine resonance, if that is important in your text, while juggernaut captures the mechanical side of things.

The Bush administration's response to 9–11 (instill fear—declare a war on terror—create a bigger and more CUMBERSOME LEVIATHAN) has left us as a nation ...
www.bushwatch.com/dehart.htm

the briefing made it seem that the Ministry had become an expensive and CUMBERSOME LEVIATHAN, unresponsive to the new pluralism, and minority needs. ...
www.education.auckland.ac.nz/uoa/fms/default/education/docs...

The new Holtz-Eakin study statistics strongly suggest that, rather than resurrecting the CUMBERSOME LEVIATHAN government of the 30s, beginning the process ...
friendsofafbi.blogspot.com/ -

Thunderbird is a big-CUMBERSOME LEVIATHAN that will suck tons of memory just to make you read some ASCII mail and news... It has few bugs relatively to RSS ...
www.ohloh.net/reviews?page=6&sort_by=recently_added

You could go for a light, nippy tank with less armour or a huge CUMBERSOME LEVIATHAN which is a bigger target. sounds good though ...
www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=575817

Homeland Security is particularly expansive and exhibits signs of being a CUMBERSOME LEVIATHAN that can't properly respond to events, ...
https://www.gopusa.com/commentary/cmolin/2006/cdm_02272.shtm...

I've said this a number o' times. I think the US system is bad too. It is also heavily regulated and a CUMBERSOME LEVIATHAN. ...
www.religiousforums.com/forum/political-debates/58765-recor... -

The word LEVIATHAN has become synonymous with any large SEA MONSTER or creature. In the novel Moby-Dick it refers to great whales, and in Modern Hebrew, ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan

Its impossible to stop a LUMBERING CLUMSY JUGGERNAUT like Microsoft. They are big enough that they don't even have to appologize for their ...
forums.cnet.com/5208-10149_102-0.html?forumID=7&threadID=298600&messageID=2796501

Because of the BUNGLING, CLUMSY JUGGERNAUT that was the legal system in the 1950's, abolishing the death penalty was perhaps a good thing back then. ...
www.imdb.com/title/tt0102288/usercomments?start=20

Rather, it is a BLIND AND CLUMSY JUGGERNAUT powered by vested interests, clambering over and flattening all other sensible European initiatives. ...
hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1980/jan/15/european-communities-act-amendment

Not long after the U2 incident Ayub called United States governmental machinery "CUMBERSOME, SLUGGISH AND A CLUMSY JUGGERNAUT" and he doubted its capacity ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0816607206...

Napoleon and his artillery leaders seem to accept high casualties as long as their CLUMSY JUGGERNAUT keep going – but in the final analysis, you run out of ...
www.napoleon-series.org/cgi-bin/forum/archives/archives_con...

A JUGGERNAUT ( American pronunciation (help•info)) is a term used to describe a force regarded as unstoppable, that will crush all in its path.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut


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agree  Sheila Wilson: I particularly like leviathan
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