descendientes de emigrantes

English translation: descendants of immigrants

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Spanish term or phrase:	descendientes de emigrantes
English translation:	descendants of immigrants
Entered by:	Luis Medina

21:17 Jun 14, 2005

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
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Spanish term or phrase: descendientes de emigrantes

"Por otra parte, uan gran cantidad de habitantes urbanos ***descendientes de emigrante*** sienten curiosidad por conocer los lugares donde vivieron sus padres y abuelos."

Additionally, a large number of city dwellers, ***descended from migrants,*** are curious to know the places where their parents and grandparents used to live.

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Thank you in advance.

Luis Medina KudoZ activity Questions: 149 (1 open) (5 closed without grading) Answers: 1068 Mexico
Local time: 08:02

descendants of immigrants

Explanation:
descendants of immigrants

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Malega,
veamos la frase original en su contexto:

\"Por otra parte, uan gran cantidad de habitantes urbanos ***descendientes de emigrante*** sienten curiosidad por conocer los lugares donde vivieron sus padres y abuelos.\"

Toda persona que emigra es tanto \"emigrante\" como \"inmigrante\". Emigra de un país e immigra a otro.

Bien, un ¨\"hijo de emigrante\" podría ser una persona cuyo padre o madre, o ambos, se fueron a otro país y dejaron al hijo atrás. En tal caso, no tendría necesidad de \"conocer el lugar donde VIVIERON sus padres y abuelos\", porque en realidad nunca lo abandonó.

Por otra parte, el hijo de inmigrantes, que nació en el país a donde emigraron su padre o madre, no conoce el lugar de origen de su progenitor o progenitora, y es natural que sienta curiosidad en conocerlo.

Si el texto fue escrito, digamos, en México, refiriéndose a los hijos de Mexicanos que emigraron a Estados Unidos, pues es posible que se refiera a dichas personas como \"emigrantes\", y a los hijos de éstas como \"hijos de emigrantes\", aunque en realidad son \"hijos de inmigrantes\" en Estados Unidos. Si el texto se refiere al entorno de Estados Unidos, donde tales personas son \"inmigrantes\" y no \"emigrantes\", opino que debía referirse a las mismas utilizando esta última palabra.

Existe una posibilidad de que esté equivocado, pero pienso que es remota.

Selected response from:

George Rabel
Local time: 10:02

Grading comment

Mil gracias.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +6

descendants of immigrants

George Rabel

4 +1

immigrant descendants

Vero G. Martinez

descended from immigrants

Mark Solomon

4 +1

second and third generation immigrants

Andy Watkinson

5 -1

of immigrants’ origin

Simon Charass

migrants' descendants

Margarita Gonzalez

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

immigrant descendants

Explanation:
otra opcion.

Professor Ulla-Britt Kotsinas, who is a scholar frequently cited on Rinkebysvenska, argues that these varieties primarily are spoken by teenagers from suburbs were immigrants and ****immigrant descendants*** are concentrated. According to her, these varieties are best to be understood as expressions of youth culture: The language is a marker of belonging to a certain subculture and at the same time opposition against a perceived mainstream non-immigrant culture that seems not to value the immigrant descendants anyway.

Vero G. Martinez
Local time: 09:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish

6 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

of immigrants’ origin

Explanation:
On the other hand, a large number of urban residents of immigrants’ origin are curious to discover the places where their parents and grandparents used to live.

This is my version.

Simon Charass
Canada
Local time: 10:02
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French

14 mins confidence:

descended from immigrants

Explanation:
In the specific context, I think this reads better

Mark Solomon
Spain
Local time: 16:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

second and third generation immigrants

Explanation:
As we're actually told that they are the "hijos" "nietos" of the original immigrants, in an English report, newspaper article, etc... I would expect something like "second and third generation immigrants".

Andy

Andy Watkinson
Spain
Local time: 16:02
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

2 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

descendants of immigrants

George Rabel
Local time: 10:02
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 28

Grading comment

Mil gracias.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

swisstell

1 min

-> Thank you ST

agree

Carolina Carabecho

29 mins

-> Muchas gracias, Asimenia

agree

Clara Nino

56 mins

-> muchas gracias, clisaz

agree

Patrice

1 hr

-> Muchas gracias, Patricia

disagree

Maria_Elena Garcia Guevara: George creo que aqui hay una confusión corrigeme si me equivoco por favor. Hijo de Inmigrante es el hijo de aquella persona que viene a establecerse desde otro país y Hijo de emigrante es aquel que se va de su pais.

1 hr

-> Hola Malega. Por favor, lee mi explicación arriba.

agree

Claudia Luque Bedregal

1 hr

-> Muchas gracias, clb

agree

Adriana de Groote

2 hrs

-> Muchas gracias, Adriana

neutral

Michele Fauble: I think the context here might be migration from the countryside to the cities.

20 hrs

-> I thought about that possibility too, that we are dealing with city folk wanting to know the rural areas where their parents came from. Only Luis knows with certainty

agree

sonja29 (X)

1 day 20 hrs

-> Muchas gracias, sonja

9 hrs confidence:

migrants' descendants

Explanation:
Y sobre la frase completa sugeriría: On the other hand a large number of migrants’ descendants living in cities are anxious to visit their ancestors’ homeland.
Espero que te sirva.

Margarita Gonzalez
Local time: 09:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish,

English
PRO pts in category: 8

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