Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
outer
French translation:
emballage externe
Added to glossary by
Sandy Gerges
Jul 19, 2010 07:46
13 yrs ago
English term
Lebanon
Outstanding quality, always on time!
Native in: Arabic
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, French to English, and 5 more.
outer
English to French
Marketing
Marketing / Market Research
We will develop 3 different packaging designs for the different products.
We will then adapt these designs to the shipper case, outers and display units.
We will then adapt these designs to the shipper case, outers and display units.
Proposed translations
(French)
| 4 +2 | emballage externe |
FX Fraipont (X)
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| 5 | enveloppe exterieure |
Liliane Hatem
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| 5 | Conteneur ou emballage ou caisson secondaire |
Sylvie Chartier
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| 3 +2 | suremballage |
Celine Reau
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| 3 | emballage extérieur |
Tony M
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Proposed translations
+2
7 mins
Selected
emballage externe
"be able to transport different regulated materials in the same outer packaging. ... que seul le dernier emballage externe est à considérer comme le colis. ..."
http://www.icao.int/anb/fls/dangerousgoods/dgp/.../DGPWG.07....
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Note added at 18 mins (2010-07-19 08:05:27 GMT)
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Picture here
"A range of robust transit outers in sturdy double walled corrugated board"
http://www.boxmart.co.uk/purchase.aspx?Typeid=51
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
7 mins
Liliane Hatem
Lebanon
Lebanon
Native in English
Specializes in field
Lebanon
Fast and reliable
Native in: English 
, Arabic
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, Arabic to French, and 3 more.
enveloppe exterieure
The outer envelope of a direct mail piece
39 mins
Sylvie Chartier
Canada
Canada
Native in French
Specializes in field
Canada
30+ years experience, Trados user
Native in: French (Variants: Canadian, Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French, French
Related KudoZ points
:
56
Conteneur ou emballage ou caisson secondaire
outer container
CORRECT
conteneur secondaire
MASC
DEF – A container which is sufficiently strong, by reason of material, design, and construction, to be shipped safely without further packaging. Source
DEF – Conteneur qui, en raison de son matériau constitutif, de sa conception et de sa construction, est assez résistant pour être expédié tel quel en toute sécurité. Source
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Tony M
: I think you've really translated Asker's other term, 'shipper case' / I do see, but Asker's context clearly distinguishes between three different levels of packaging. In retailing, 'outer' has a special meaning
13 mins
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Tony, click on my reference and you'll see where I got outer from
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+2
10 mins
Celine Reau
France
France
Native in French
Specializes in field
France
Because each word is important
Native in: French (Variants: Swiss, Belgian, Standard-France, Canadian)
Works in: English to French, Spanish to French
Related KudoZ points
:
8
suremballage
www.tfbshop.com/catalog/apli/apli-agipa_trans.pdf
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Note added at 1 heure (2010-07-19 09:06:29 GMT)
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Un site intéressant qui définit clairement les différentes "couches" d'emballage.
Et me conforte dans ma proposition de "suremballage"
http://www.graphiline.com/article/12265/Le-suremballage-en-q...
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Note added at 1 heure (2010-07-19 09:06:29 GMT)
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Un site intéressant qui définit clairement les différentes "couches" d'emballage.
Et me conforte dans ma proposition de "suremballage"
http://www.graphiline.com/article/12265/Le-suremballage-en-q...
51 mins
emballage extérieur
See several previous FR > EN KudoZ
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-07-19 08:52:44 GMT)
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Note that in retailing, 'outer' (used on its own) has a special meaning, which is subtly different (at least in some cases) from 'outer packaging', 'outer container', etc.
You get 'display units' — what the customer sees on the supermarket shelf, e.g. a bag of sweets
'outers' — the pretty printed carton that contains (e.g.) 2 doz. bags of sweets, which is what the shop has in its store-room
'shipper case' — the robust, less attractive, corrugated cardboard carton containing (e.g.) 6 outers of 24 bags, which is what is used for transporting from the manufacturer.
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Note added at 1474 jours (2014-08-01 11:01:08 GMT) Post-grading
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Addendum to original answer:
Another possible term to consider might be 'outre'
Much to my surprise, I've just encountered this on some packaging from a well-known, reputable native FR supplier, which was not a translation from an English original; but I have no idea how widespread its use is, or whether it hass found widespread acceptance.
May be one to keep an eye on, to see if it catches on or falls by the wayside.
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-07-19 08:52:44 GMT)
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Note that in retailing, 'outer' (used on its own) has a special meaning, which is subtly different (at least in some cases) from 'outer packaging', 'outer container', etc.
You get 'display units' — what the customer sees on the supermarket shelf, e.g. a bag of sweets
'outers' — the pretty printed carton that contains (e.g.) 2 doz. bags of sweets, which is what the shop has in its store-room
'shipper case' — the robust, less attractive, corrugated cardboard carton containing (e.g.) 6 outers of 24 bags, which is what is used for transporting from the manufacturer.
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Note added at 1474 jours (2014-08-01 11:01:08 GMT) Post-grading
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Addendum to original answer:
Another possible term to consider might be 'outre'
Much to my surprise, I've just encountered this on some packaging from a well-known, reputable native FR supplier, which was not a translation from an English original; but I have no idea how widespread its use is, or whether it hass found widespread acceptance.
May be one to keep an eye on, to see if it catches on or falls by the wayside.
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