Jan 10, 2014 10:55
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Japanese term

外数 (そとすう)

Japanese to English Bus/Financial Business/Commerce (general) bank or bill term
This word is written on an invoice. There is a title : products cost and consumption tax. And following this, it is written 外数 (そとすう) in brackets. Under it there are the amount of money listed.
(I found some explanations but still I am not sure how to translate it. These are the explanations I have found:
. approximation (form proz.com)
.The number of the outside
. 多数の例外 a large number of exceptions ( コンピューター用語辞典)
Proposed translations (English)
3 [tax] not included [in price]
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Julian Rippon Jan 10, 2014:
Thanks for this. This confirms my earlier suggestion.
You can see that the consumption tax is exactly 5% of the product cost, so clearly the product cost does not include the tax.
"Consumption tax (not included in product cost)" would make it clear I think.
didja (asker) Jan 10, 2014:
On the invoive there is the list of machines shipped and their costs with the following explanation:
Upper row: the product's cost Lower row: consumption tax (外数)
Ex: 6.876.000 Yen
343.800 Yen, and so on.
So is should be to translate 外数 as "tax not included".

Proposed translations

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[tax] not included [in price]

Without seeing the actual numbers it is difficult to be certain, but this would normally mean that the amount of tax shown is not included in the price shown. The "外数" thus refers to the tax.

For example, I believe that in the US, prices on goods in shops are normally shown without the tax included, and the tax is then added to the total at the point of sale. In the UK on the other hand, prices shown include tax. From memory, shops in Japan used to show prices without tax included, but some years ago changed to showing the price including tax.

In the case in question here, I assume that the price that the customer would pay is the total of the "product cost" and the "consumption tax".
Peer comment(s):

neutral Kurt Hammond : Usually that is 外税 but really hard to tell here.
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