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με ήπιους μουσικούς

English translation: ronchi

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Greek term or phrase:με ήπιους μουσικούς
English translation:ronchi
Entered by: David Wigtil

21:31 Feb 19, 2024
Greek to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical: Health Care / Physical/objective exam
Greek term or phrase: με ήπιους μουσικούς
Unusual use of με ήπιους μουσικούς -- my guesses so far would be limited to wheezing or rales/ronchi or something similar. (OBVIOUSLY riduculous "gentle musicians" is out of the question.)
-- This is from a 4-bullet summary of a physical exam, Source line verbatim showed, "αναπνευστικό ψιθύρισμα με ήπιους μουσικούς άμφω," except that αναπνευστικό ψιθύρισμα was abbreviated as "ΑΨ" -- and no further context. Document elsewhere made a solitary reference to COPD, absent any further details about pulmonary status. Patient's primary pathologies were gastrointestinal.
Responses/explanations welcome in any language. Deepest thanks in advance.
David Wigtil
United States
Local time: 10:39
ronchi
Explanation:
As you correctly guessed, μουσικός ρόγχος is the low-pitched musical tone like a snore.
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Vasileios Paraskevas
Greece
Local time: 17:39
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Many thanks to you all.
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4 +3ronchi
Vasileios Paraskevas
3discontinuous sounds
Konstantinos Gkofas


  

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μουσικοί ρόγχοι
ronchi


Explanation:
As you correctly guessed, μουσικός ρόγχος is the low-pitched musical tone like a snore.

Vasileios Paraskevas
Greece
Local time: 17:39
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GreekGreek
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Many thanks to you all.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Pericles1978
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agree  Anastasia Kalantzi
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agree  Antreas Aristeidou
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μουσικοί ήχοι
discontinuous sounds


Explanation:
or non-musical sounds

(Although there is a medical practitioner in our midst that probably knows better) I think that auscultation terminology is a bit convoluted:

(a) on the one extreme, ronchi are construed as a sub-category of musical sounds (along with wheezing) (see [1]);

(b) on the other extreme (or at least in Greek literature), they are used as a general, throw-around term than can denote both musical and non-musical sounds (see [2], in Greek) —there are reliable Google results for both "μουσικοί ρόγχοι" and "μη μουσικοί ρόγχοι" (although markedly fewer for the former).

Therefore, I would suggest you stick to the vaguest —and safest— term, and not take chances by using ronchi, except if you have good reason to believe that exactly that was the intended meaning. (See also online references for a discussion on lung sound nomenclature standardisation.).

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537253/#:~:text=For ex...

[2] https://eclass.uoa.gr/modules/document/file.php/MED837/7ο ΕΞ...

Example sentence(s):
  • Στην πνευμονική ίνωση οι <b>μη μουσικοί ρόγχοι</b> έχουν τη χροιά του ήχου που παράγεται όταν αποκολλούμε μια ταινία βέλκρο
  • Ακρόαση πνευμόνων: έντονοι <b>μουσικοί ρόγχοι</b> αμφοτερόπλευρα, παράταση εκπνοής. • SpO₂: 94% (FiO₂: 21%). Page 19. Παροξύνσεις άσθματος. • Ταχεία επι�

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Konstantinos Gkofas
Local time: 17:39
Native speaker of: Greek
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