Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
überbordende demokratie
English translation:
democracy run amok
Added to glossary by
sylvie malich (X)
May 29, 2002 15:16
21 yrs ago
German term
überbordende demokratie
German to English
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Government / Politics
politics
...großer Skepsis am tatsächlichen Reformwillen, wobei gelegentlich auch auf kontroverse Ansichten zwischen dem Staatspräsidenten und der Regierung sowie auf frühere „staatliche Willkür, fehlende Transparenz, *überbordende Demokratie*“ verwiesen wird.
what is meant by this
what is meant by this
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | democracy run amok |
Ulrike Lieder (X)
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| 4 +3 | rampant democracy |
Marcus Malabad
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| 4 +1 | out-of-control democracy |
Kim Metzger
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| 4 +1 | Excessive democracy |
Jan Liebelt
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| 4 +1 | excessive liberalism |
Tranzzlate
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| 4 | Sentence option: |
brute (X)
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| 3 +1 | excessive democracy |
Jeannie Graham
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Proposed translations
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democracy run amok
überborden ptp überbordet vi insep aux haben or sein (fig) (geh) to be overextravagant
[Collins]
überborden (über die Ufer treten; über das normale Maß hinausgehen, ausarten); der Betrieb ist, auch hat überbordet
[Duden]
In other words, carrying something (in this case, a good thing) too far. The above may be a somewhat liberal translation, but it certainly brings the point across, and I think it might work for you.
...talk radio is not democracy in action, but democracy run amok.". ...
https://secure.mediaresearch.org/ columns/news/col19960919.htm
Just one of the battlefields in that high crusade, the former
Yugoslavia, offers a clear example of democracy run amok. From ...
www.antiwar.com/malic/pf/p-m042502.html
HTH
[Collins]
überborden (über die Ufer treten; über das normale Maß hinausgehen, ausarten); der Betrieb ist, auch hat überbordet
[Duden]
In other words, carrying something (in this case, a good thing) too far. The above may be a somewhat liberal translation, but it certainly brings the point across, and I think it might work for you.
...talk radio is not democracy in action, but democracy run amok.". ...
https://secure.mediaresearch.org/ columns/news/col19960919.htm
Just one of the battlefields in that high crusade, the former
Yugoslavia, offers a clear example of democracy run amok. From ...
www.antiwar.com/malic/pf/p-m042502.html
HTH
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks: I would say both answers "run amok" and democracy "out of control" are the right answers but I can only credit one, (so sorry Mr. Metzger ...)"
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8 mins
Kim Metzger
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252
out-of-control democracy
According to Muret Sanders überbordend is Swiss and means ausarten.
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Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Steffen Walter
: according to Muret-Sanders but "überbordend" is not really confined to Swiss usage :-)
3 hrs
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10 mins
Jan Liebelt
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Excessive democracy
Or: Excessively/Obsessively democratic approach.
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Or even: Fanatically/Over-zealously democratic approach
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Or even: Fanatically/Over-zealously democratic approach
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Steffen Walter
: yes, all of them except "fanatically" according to my "feel"
3 hrs
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10 mins
brute (X)
brute (X)
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... much scepticism of actual reform will, whereby occasionally reference is also made to controversial views / opinions between President and Government, as well as prior "state arbitrariness, missing transparency, and exessive democracy "
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11 mins
Jeannie Graham
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8
excessive democracy
my suggestion
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or democracy gone to the extreme
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or over-the-top democracy
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or democracy gone to the extreme
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or over-the-top democracy
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Steffen Walter
: All good but it just struck me that the three items given in the original (staatliche Willkür, fehlende Transparenz, überbordende Demokratie), or better the 1st two compared to the 3rd, create a contradiction in themselves
3 hrs
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11 mins
Marcus Malabad
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Related KudoZ points
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12
rampant democracy
I reckon the sense is of a democracy that goes unchecked, unrestrained, even menacingly.
Reference:
www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives/012100/012100h.htm
www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/ Aristotle-politics-polis.html
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Jan Liebelt
: Sounds like a bad thing. Aren't we supposed to be in favour of democracy round here?
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read the sentence again, Jan
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| agree |
Kim Metzger
: OED: rampant (adj) = flourishing or spreading unchecked
13 mins
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| agree |
jerrie
: rampant isn't always a bad thing :-) !!!
3 hrs
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| agree |
Steffen Walter
3 hrs
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19 mins
Tranzzlate
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excessive liberalism
Like the Swiss model, every decision is to be made by the population instead of its government. A negative expression.
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