Jun 21, 2021 10:13
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French term

soldes intermédiaires de gestion

French to English Bus/Financial Finance (general)
a measurable financial result used to assess the management of a company from a cost accounting point of view

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldes_intermédiaires_de_gesti...

Discussion

Francois Boye Jun 23, 2021:
@ Steve Robbie

What do you think about this translation:


intermediate management components of the income statement

See the 4-2 and 4-3 pages of the attachment: https://images.template.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/30095...
Steve Robbie Jun 22, 2021:
Yeah, it's a tricky one If it specifically refers to those particular measures (valeur ajoutée, EBE etc.) then English has no exact equivalent. Those aren't necessarily metrics that British or American accountants would use.

I think there are two ways of approaching this, depending on context.

If you need to refer to this particular French way of slicing up the profit and loss, then 'intermediate management balances' might work - but I'd put it in scare quotes, and/or add a gloss, explaining that these are various standard profit measures used for analysis purposes in French accounting.

If you can afford to be less precise, it might be ok simply to refer to "analytical profit measures", "management profit indicators" or something like that.
AllegroTrans Jun 22, 2021:
No I didn't research this and it was only a guess, hence not in the answer box. I am not a translator of financial documents anyway.
Daryo Jun 21, 2021:
@ AllegroTrans Have you taken the trouble to look at RELEVANT REFERENCES, already served on a plate?

You might have noticed than that "intermédiaires" has NOTHING to do with time/timeline but with stages in calculating "Résultat de l'exercice" ...
AllegroTrans Jun 21, 2021:
intermédiaires = mid-term? (i.e. somewhere around the middle of a financial perid)
Daryo Jun 21, 2021:
To be fair it is a tricky one, as it's specific to the French accounting system (le Plan comptable général)

Something along the lines of "analytical subsets of the total revenue" would be closer to the meaning.

Practically, all these "soldes intermédiaires" are stages in calculating "le Résultat net de l'exercice" but are also in effect various ways of "slicing" the same set of data for analytical purposes.

As in:

"Une fois déterminé, chacun de ces soldes peut alors servir l'analyse financière de l'activité et de la gestion de l'entreprise."
Daryo Jun 21, 2021:
Yes... and not quite. Yes, someone already translated it in that way.

But, instead of relying ONLY on someone else's translation (that could a priori be the best possible one as much as total crap), I would rather start from scratch ("toujours vérifier à la source")

"interim balances" sounds like a set a "temporary" figures computed at some point in time within the accounting period, a kind of "temporary indicators" that will do while waiting for the end of the accounting period.

That hardly agrees with the definition given:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldes_intermédiaires_de_gesti...

and I can't see how "interim" would make sense in this graphic:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/SIG-upda...

Admittedly, you could also interpret "interim" as stages in calculating the balance sheet, but that's not how it's used => there is serious risk of "interim balances" being misunderstood:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/interim-statement.asp

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/interim-balance

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/interim-balance-sheet


Proposed translations

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intermediate management balances

Basically, the intermediate management balances (IMB) are indicators
determined in cascade (Iacob C., 1996) in the form of money accumulation
margins, designed to perform a specific function the remuneration of the factors of production and of financing of future activity, which highlights the stages of the formation of the net result of the accounting period in close connection with the structure of the incomes and expenses of the company activity.

Achieving this objective requires, according to the author G.Vintilă (2002,
pp.31-32), a pre-treatment of the profit and loss account to reveal in order to
highlight the manner of operation and the profitability of the company, as
commercial margin, output of the accounting period, value added, gross operating surplus, operating result, current result and net result of the accounting period.

The tables of intermediate management balances are listed in the source:
https://www.revistadestatistica.ro/supliment/wp-content/uplo...

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Another reference:https://ideas.repec.org/a/cbu/jrnlec/y2018v3p165-170.html#:~...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Daryo : the reference is definitely a very relevant one, my only reserve is that it's "Romanian English". although it does seem reasonably well written.
6 hrs
What about this one:https://ideas.repec.org/a/cbu/jrnlec/y2018v3p165-170.html#:~...
neutral Steve Robbie : Your other reference is also Romanian. It's a reasonable translation, but it won't mean anything to an Anglo reader without further explanation.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks François, it's a tricky term but out of the answers I think this is probably the way to go, with an explanation if needed."
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stepped analytical balances

"de gestion" => used for management purpose => you need to analyse data before using them

"soldes intermédiaires" => these "balances" are steps in calculating "Résultat de l'exercice"
Peer comment(s):

neutral Francois Boye : Where is the evidence? You are speculating!
13 hrs
Where is the evidence? ???? Well, if you can't see what's staring at you ....
neutral Steve Robbie : Nice idea, but it won't mean anything to the reader without further explanation, so it's ultimately no clearer than a word-for-word translation would be.
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true, but that's basically the problem with any concept that is unknown in the target language // this "label" describes reasonable well what's in the tin, I would think?
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intermediate management components of the income statement

This is the closest translation to the Anglo-American accounting system


See the 4-2 and 4-3 pages of the attachment: https://images.template.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/30095...
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Reference comments

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Reference:

www.zonebourse.com > formation > espace_pedagogique ...

3.3 - Les soldes intermédiaires de gestion

L’analyse du compte de résultat présente un triple objectif :

--- Analyser les marges de l'entreprise
--- Evaluer l'activité d'une entreprise, sa capacité à être profitable et rentable
--- Déterminer les ressources dégagées par l'entreprise et qui lui permettent d'autofinancer ses activités

La simple présentation du résultat de l’entreprise ne suffit pas à répondre à toutes ces questions. Il faut pour cela élaborer un diagnostic plus précis qui distingue ce qui relève de l’activité normale d’une entreprise, de son mode de financement et ce qui est dû à des éléments exceptionnels.

Le concept de soldes intermédiaires de gestion permet de décomposer le résultat d'une entreprise pour améliorer le diagnostic financier et identifier les différents facteurs qui sont à l'origine du résultat de l'entreprise

Les soldes intermédiaires de gestion se décomposent selon le schéma suivant :


Ventes de marchandises
– Coût d'achat des marchandises vendues (achats de marchandises ± Variation de stocks de marchandises)
= Marge commerciale (pour les entreprises commerciales)

Production vendue
± Production stockée
+ Production immobilisée
= Production de l'exercice

Marge commerciale
+ Production de l'exercice
- Consommations de l'exercice en provenance de tiers
= Valeur Ajoutée de l'entreprise (1)

Valeur Ajoutée de l'entreprise
+ Subventions d'investissement
- Impôts, taxes et versements assimilés
- Charges de personnel
= Excédent Brut d'Exploitation (2)

Excédent Brut d'Exploitation
+ Reprises sur provisions d'exploitation
+ Autres produits d'exploitation
- Dotation aux amortissements et provisions
- Autres charges d'exploitation
= Résultat d'exploitation (3)

Résultat d'exploitation
+ Résultat financier
= Résultat courant avant impôt

Résultat courant avant impôt
+ Résultat exceptionnel
- Impôt sur les bénéfices
- Participation des salariés
= Résultat de l'exercice (4)


1. La Valeur Ajoutée mesure la richesse réelle crée par l'entreprise du fait de sa fonction de production. Elle le premier indicateur de la richesse dégagée par l'entreprise

2. L'Excédent Brut d'Exploitation (EBE) mesure la performance purement économique de l'entreprise, c'est-à-dire la différence entre les produits d'exploitation et les charges d'exploitation. Il ne tient pas compte de la politique financière de l'entreprise, ni de l'influence des amortissements, charges et produits exceptionnels.
L'EBE est le chiffre-clé "pivot" de la rentabilité d'une entreprise. Il est proche de l’EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Tax, Depreciation and Amortization) anglo-saxon.

3. Le Résultat d'exploitation mesure la capacité d'une entreprise à dégager un résultat du simple fait de son activité de production.

4. Le Résultat de l'exercice mesure la capacité de l'entreprise à dégager un résultat positif une fois pris en compte l'ensemble de ses produits et de ses charges.

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