3 vueltas en modo común con tierra

English translation: 3 turns twisted pair common mode one of the pair is ground

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Spanish term or phrase:3 vueltas en modo común con tierra
English translation:3 turns twisted pair common mode one of the pair is ground
Entered by: Robert Dunn

00:29 Feb 9, 2014
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Electronics / Elect Eng / Electric cables
Spanish term or phrase: 3 vueltas en modo común con tierra
Hi everyone,

I am having trouble figuring out what is meant by the phrase "(3 vueltas en modo común con tierra)" in this sentence. It refers to a ferrite bead on an AC cable for an electrical system.

Ferrita toroidal PREMO en cable AC, antes de FILTRO (***3 vueltas en modo común con tierra***).

Does this mean it is wound three times?
Robert Dunn
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3 turns twisted pair common mode one of the pair is ground
Explanation:
Electromagnetic emission causes havoc with electronic and electrical equipment and installations. Toroidal circuits are use to filter these interferences. The common mode configuration uses a twisted pair, one of them is the ground shielding signal wire all through the winding. Some noise rejection is achieved.
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lugoben
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43-turns common mode choke (cmc)
Julio Bereciartu
43 turns twisted pair common mode one of the pair is ground
lugoben
4wound 3 times with ground
neilmac
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References
Helena Chavarria

  

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3-turns common mode choke (cmc)


Explanation:
check on figure 22 of this link: http://books.google.co.ve/books?id=1vYnMYBLBf8C&pg=PA3&lpg=P...

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3 turns twisted pair common mode one of the pair is ground


Explanation:
Electromagnetic emission causes havoc with electronic and electrical equipment and installations. Toroidal circuits are use to filter these interferences. The common mode configuration uses a twisted pair, one of them is the ground shielding signal wire all through the winding. Some noise rejection is achieved.


Example sentence(s):
  • Twisting pairs reduce differential impedance and increases mutual coupling.

    Reference: http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?251008-Toroid-winding
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wound 3 times with ground


Explanation:
tierra = ground USA / earth UK

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Note added at 4 days (2014-02-13 17:42:22 GMT)
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I stand by my suggestion (for the short text in parenthesis).

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Reference: References

Reference information:
Making common-mode chokes

The easiest way to make a common-mode choke is to take a ferrite toroid and wrap about 5-15 turns of the feedline onto the toroid, forming a coil. This will attenuate common-mode signals nicely, without significant effect to the differential-mode signals INSIDE the feedline (the desired TV signals in the case of TVI). For lower HF, #73, #75, #77 or J type material is best; for upper HF and VHF, #43 is a good all around material.

To realize effective chokes in few turns it is a need to use materials whose permeability is very high, 2000 or more. Large cable, such as monitor cables, are impractical to wind. The solution here is to use large, split toroids and mate the halves tightly after winding the cable around each half.

http://www.hamuniverse.com/rfi.html

Noise present between the AC mains and ground may be attenuated through the use of a common-mode choke,
typically by wrapping several turns of the AC line and common wires around a ferrite choke as shown in Figure 3.

http://oldenburgelectronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/A...

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Asker: Very helpful and insightful! Thank you so much!


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agree  David Murillo: good stuff
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