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洋芝

English translation: Cool season grasses

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Japanese term or phrase:洋芝
English translation:Cool season grasses
Entered by: Katalin Horváth McClure

04:59 Aug 26, 2005
Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Science - Agriculture / grass, turf (for golf course)
Japanese term or phrase: 洋芝
Is 洋芝 a collective term, including various types of grasses (Western grass? European grass?), or is it one particular type of grass?
I found websites where 洋芝 is also called Kentucky Blue Grass, but I want more reliable help than Google.
Katalin Horváth McClure
United States
Local time: 11:41
Cool season grasses
Explanation:
洋芝 seems to refer to "cool season grasses", especially after looking at the definition supplied by the link in Mr. Barrett's answer. Have a look at the following site for everything you ever wanted to know about grass/turf. Scroll down to the bottom for a useful table of various types of warm/cool season grasses.

Zoysia (Z. Japonica) is a native grass in Japan and classified as "warm season grass."

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Note added at 46 mins (2005-08-26 05:45:49 GMT)
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* Kentucky Blue Grass is a 'cool season grass' which would also confirm this.
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KathyT
Australia
Local time: 01:41
Grading comment
Thank you very much.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2Cool season grasses
KathyT
5 +1Temperate climate grasses
goldfish04
3 +2I think 洋芝 is collective term.
Kazumichi Sato (X)
4 -1Western grass
Benjamin Barrett (X)
3cool season grass
snowbees


  

Answers


13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
洋芝
Western grass


Explanation:
The below link seems to demonstrate pretty clearly that European-style grasses are being referred to. Without any context, I'm not sure what to suggest as the answer, but the idea that grasses native to Japan are being opposed to those found natively in Europe and/or the Americas seems pretty clear.


    Reference: http://plaza.rakuten.co.jp/gekisou/diary/20050818/
Benjamin Barrett (X)
Meets criteria
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Maynard Hogg: I doubt that this 直訳 would mean much to the English reader. Westerns are usually set in deserts.
23 mins
  -> Which is why I responded the way I did. Please read the rest of the post where I specifically say that I'm not sure what to suggest as the answer.
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
洋芝
I think 洋芝 is collective term.


Explanation:
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~s-turf/turfgrass.html

Kazumichi Sato (X)
Japan
Local time: 00:41
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Japanese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maynard Hogg: I'd try to get away with "turf" to avoid all the allergy and marijuana associations of "grass."
24 mins
  -> thanks
agree  sumc: prefer "turf"
10 hrs
  -> I've thought asker was just asking if 洋芝 is a collective term or not. So my answer may be not adequate. Anyway thanks.
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
洋芝
Cool season grasses


Explanation:
洋芝 seems to refer to "cool season grasses", especially after looking at the definition supplied by the link in Mr. Barrett's answer. Have a look at the following site for everything you ever wanted to know about grass/turf. Scroll down to the bottom for a useful table of various types of warm/cool season grasses.

Zoysia (Z. Japonica) is a native grass in Japan and classified as "warm season grass."

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Note added at 46 mins (2005-08-26 05:45:49 GMT)
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* Kentucky Blue Grass is a 'cool season grass' which would also confirm this.


    Reference: http://www.allaboutlawns.com/lawn-maintenance-care/getting-t...
KathyT
Australia
Local time: 01:41
Meets criteria
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thank you very much.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maynard Hogg: Japanese grass turns brown in winter. Not good for golf courses! But I'd only use your suggestion for expert audiences and stick to "turf" elsewhere.
14 mins
  -> Thanks, Maynard.
agree  Kazuo SAWADA: I agree with you.
41 mins
  -> Thanks, SAWADA-san.
neutral  sumc: Cool season grass may be too specific for 洋芝.　Cool season grass such as Kentucky Blue Grass is mostly used in East Coast in US. For example, Kentucky Blue Grass works fine in the nothern KY region but not in south, you see.
10 hrs
  -> Thx for your comment, sumc-san. I guess they need warm-season grass in South Kentucky, then!
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
洋芝
Temperate climate grasses


Explanation:
http://www.agri.pref.chiba.jp/nourinsui/07kairyo/golf/green_...
Japanese agronomists rephrase 洋芝 as 寒地型芝草. 寒地 corresponds to the (cold) temperate zone in the global climate zone classification.

ohric.ucdavis.edu/Newsltr/CTC/ctcv11_2.pdf
Here the term "temperate climate grass" is found at the bottom of pp. 16 and is said to include Kentucky blue grass and other 洋芝 species. Since several other academic web pages use this, I would think it is an accepted term in the field. "Cool season grass" is more of a layman's term which *might* mislead some readers to believe it is an annual plant that flourish during the cool months and then die off, whereas KBG (perennial) and many other 洋芝 can flourish all year around in warmer areas of the temperate zone, even during hot summer months.

goldfish04
Meets criteria

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  KathyT: that this is another alternative but only 30 hits total on Google. While Google is by no means the be-all-and-end-all of references, it does seem to indicate that "cool season grass(es)" is a fairly universal term, academically/professionally/layman-ly.
6 hrs
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
洋芝（西洋芝）
cool season grass


Explanation:
See the definition stated in the article, with an index, which is a must-read piece for golf-turf translation.
Search keywords are: "bluegrass zoysia bermudagrass".

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Note added at 17 hrs 40 mins (2005-08-26 22:40:12 GMT)
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http://homepage2.nifty.com/‾taka3/books.html
西洋芝に関する参考文献

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Note added at 21 hrs 6 mins (2005-08-27 02:06:08 GMT)
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http://www.american-lawns.com/grasses/grasses.html
See the article of "Grass types," that defines in depth: cool-season grass; transitional zone: and warm-season grass.



    Reference: http://www.chibagreen.co.jp/basic/basic_knowledge_3.html
snowbees
Local time: 00:41
Meets criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese
PRO pts in category: 8
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