in barba a chi

English translation: in spite of those who...

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Italian term or phrase:in barba a chi
English translation:in spite of those who...
Entered by: Vanita Ajgarni

17:40 Dec 19, 2008
Italian to English translations [PRO]
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Italian term or phrase: in barba a chi
In barba a chi non si afferma che le fantasie non mescolano...

It's a rather long sentence so I hope this is sufficient.
Thanks!
Vanita Ajgarni
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:04
in spite of those who...
Explanation:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=536298

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Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3in spite of those who...
Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
5 +1To hell with
Patrick Freeman
3 +1that will teach those who...
Colin Rowe
3in the teeth of those who
molteni
3to blazes with
Paul O'Brien
3(openly) defying those who...
Raffaella Panigada


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that will teach those who...


Explanation:
Something like: "That will teach those who claim that..."

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or:

"Let that be a lesson to those who..."

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Or even:

"So much for those who..."

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I guess it really depends on what fits with the rest of your sentence.

Colin Rowe
Germany
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agree  potra: I like your second option: Let that...
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in the teeth of those who


Explanation:
Or "in defiance of"... I think there are many possible translations.


    Reference: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=536298
molteni
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to blazes with


Explanation:
it's an option. i find the original quite up front and i think it needs some type of forthright exclamation in the translation.

http://www.google.it/search?q="to blazes with&ie=utf-8&oe=ut...

Paul O'Brien
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(openly) defying those who...


Explanation:
Another idea. HTH

Raffaella Panigada
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To hell with


Explanation:
Used to describe an 'i don't care' attitude: non mi frega di....

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there is a physical action of flicking your beard, or chin, at someone which can accompany this phrase: hth

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http://blogs.ft.com/management/2008/11/12/to-hell-with-the-b...
http://network.nature.com/people/rpg/blog/2008/04/09/to-hell...

An couple of examples of its use in titles for blogs in the Financial Times and The Scientist, just to reassure you that it is not an offensive expression and can be found in various reputable, while informal, contexts/registers

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Having re-read the extended sentence I have to add that I don't think that 'to hell with' can fit, as here it is not an exclamative phrase,
An equally forceful alternative might be "Sticking two fingers up at those who..." ; it depends on how you interpret the register in Italian of "In barba a chi"

Example sentence(s):
  • To hell with trying to find a better translation!
Patrick Freeman
Spain
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agree  roisin56: the "hell" word might frighten sensitive readers - tho' to hell with them!
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  -> i think if the word 'hell' frightens certain readers, they would have trouble with the rest of the description that follows: it's quite strong stuff
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in spite of those who...


Explanation:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=536298

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Thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone!

Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
Italy
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agree  Peter Cox
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agree  Emanuela Galdelli: è proprio questo il senso, "alla faccia di" coloro che...
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agree  Pnina
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