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Abu Bakr Trust

Arabic translation: مؤسسة أبو بكر

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English term or phrase:Abu Bakr Trust
Arabic translation:مؤسسة أبو بكر
Entered by: Amira Abdallah

13:26 Aug 12, 2007
English to Arabic translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / education
English term or phrase: Abu Bakr Trust
It is some kind of educational organization.

"The ABU BAKR TRUST by the grace of Allah has for the last 9 years been instrumental in the delivery of quality Islamic education to the whole of the Muslim community."

في القواميس القانونية التعبير
trust
يعني اتحاد شركات إدارة أموال
ولكني لا أستسيغ هذا التعبير وأراه طويلاً بالنسبة للسياق هنا.
Abdelmonem Samir
Local time: 01:25
مؤسسة أبو بكر
Explanation:
من سياق الكلام أميل الى هذه الترجمة
Selected response from:

Amira Abdallah
Egypt
Local time: 01:25
Grading comment
That was my choice. Although it is not accurate, but is more natural. And the Abu Bakr trust defines itself as a charity, any way, which is typically translated into Arabic as مؤسسة خيرية
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +3وقف أبو بكر
Saleh Ayyub
4 +1أبو بكر تراست
ahmadwadan.com
5رصد أبوبكر
Mohsin Alabdali
4 -1مدرسة أبو بكر الصديق
Mohamed Salaheldin
4 -1شركة أبو بكر الائتمانية
ALI DJEBLI
4 -1مؤسسة أبو بكر
Amira Abdallah
3 -1صندوق أبو بكر
soamo19


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
abu bakr trust
أبو بكر تراست


Explanation:
Please google تراست if you have doubts.

HTH

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Note added at 18 mins (2007-08-12 13:44:14 GMT)
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أبو بكر تظل كما هي بغض النظر عما قبلها لأنها أصبحت اسم شركة/مؤسسة...الخ، مثل "شركة المقاولون العرب" فلا يجوز تغيير اسم الشركة إلى المقاولين العرب لأن قبلها حرف جر مثلا.

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Note added at 20 mins (2007-08-12 13:46:26 GMT)
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نظرة قانونية:
تغيير أحرف شركة ما من الرفع إلى الجر أو النصب يحولها إلى كيان قانوني آخر مخالف لعقد تأسيسها وبالتالي تصبح شركة غير المقصودة وقد ينشأ عن ذلك ألاعيب قانونية.

ahmadwadan.com
Saudi Arabia
Local time: 01:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 64
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you very much Ahmad. For the "legal advice".


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Randa Farhat
7 mins
agree  Sayed Moustafa talawy
10 hrs
disagree  Mohsin Alabdali: This is not a translation but a transliteration into Arabic script.
1 day 19 hrs
  -> Dear Mr. Mohsin, does this mean that you, as a translator, do not believe in transliterating a company name? Regards
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
abu bakr trust
مدرسة أبو بكر الصديق


Explanation:
أعتقد أن "ترست" هنا ترجمة للصديق ولا تترجم خلاف ذلك لأنه لن يستقيم المعنى

Mohamed Salaheldin
Egypt
Local time: 01:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 72

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mohsin Alabdali: Trust is not a translation for "al-siddique" but a description of a legal entity that is recognized in common law and was also recognized in Islamic fiqh but was disused until recently.
1 day 17 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
abu bakr trust
شركة أبو بكر الائتمانية


Explanation:
الشركة الائتمانية

ALI DJEBLI
United States
Local time: 18:25
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 14

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mohsin Alabdali: A trust is not a credit company but a distinct legal entity llike "waqf" but is more flexible. In Islam this was called "rusd" but was disused until recently.
1 day 17 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
abu bakr trust
وقف أبو بكر


Explanation:
We have a similar community trust in New Zealand, it is called:


Almanar Trust, and in Arabic it is referred to as:
وقف المنار

Hope this would help,

Salam,

Saleh


    Reference: http://almanarnz.com/main_E.php?section=homepage&language=E
Saleh Ayyub
New Zealand
Local time: 10:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 44
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Saleh. Excellent suggestion.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sayed Moustafa talawy: agree
5 hrs
  -> Thanks mate :D
agree  Mohsin Alabdali: This is the nearest alternative translation to "rusd", the translation that was adopted by Al Baraka fiqh symposium of 2001
1 day 13 hrs
  -> Thanks mate :D
agree  Mohammed Abdelhady
74 days
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
abu bakr trust
مؤسسة أبو بكر


Explanation:
من سياق الكلام أميل الى هذه الترجمة

Amira Abdallah
Egypt
Local time: 01:25
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
That was my choice. Although it is not accurate, but is more natural. And the Abu Bakr trust defines itself as a charity, any way, which is typically translated into Arabic as مؤسسة خيرية

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mohsin Alabdali: A trust can be a foundation but not necessarily so. Indeed most foundations are financed by trusts.
1 day 10 hrs
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1 day 13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
abu bakr trust
صندوق أبو بكر


Explanation:
Abu Bakr Trust Fund
صندوق أبو بكر
صندوق أمانة أبو بكر


soamo19
Singapore
Local time: 06:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mohsin Alabdali: A trust fund is an investment instrument that is legally distinct from a trust
6 hrs
  -> Thank you for your Commnet
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1 day 14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
abu bakr trust
رصد أبوبكر


Explanation:
Trust is a more flexible form of endowment. Recently (about six years ago) some scholars of Islamic fiqh and economics agreed in a symposium held in Jeddah that the Arabic equivalent of "Trust" is "Rusd" (رصد). The rusd had been an important source of financing research and other activities in Islamic history but gradually died out. Now it is being revived in Malaysia and Saudi Arabia.

In short, I would suggest adopting the Arabic word رصد to translate "trust" in the context of an entity. Thus Abu Bakr Trust can be translated رصد أبو بكر. The nearest alternative translation is وقف أبوبكر.



Mohsin Alabdali
Saudi Arabia
Local time: 01:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 104
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Mohsin for your input. I really appreciate all the info you provided. I used مؤسسة because it is an easy expression that suits the advestisement genre. Maybe Rusd is the most accurate term, but like you said, it is a dead term that is trying to live again in some countries. MY document is targeting Islamic community in the UK. I think they need a simple term.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Ali Al awadi: Hi Mohsin, actually I wouldnt go for "rusd" as it sounds odd and misleading. Being intellectually inclined to a word rather than others in a symposium is hardly enough for a word to be validated and approved. Please read my note above. Thanks a lot!
10 hrs
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