Jun 17, 2008 02:41
15 yrs ago
Japanese term

他人をして

Japanese to English Bus/Financial Human Resources
The sentence is
会社の物品の浪費等を行い、又は他人をして行わせたとき

from a list of things that employees should not do.

Another similar example from the internet is
他のご利用者の個人情報を収集したり、蓄積したりする行為、または他人をして収集させたり、蓄積させたりする行為。

Any help would be appreciated

Proposed translations

+2
10 hrs
Selected

allow others to...

In this context, might 'allow' not be a better word?

Anyway, as Humbird points out, this is just a slightly archaic causative construction.
xx をして xx させる is the same as xx に xx させる
Peer comment(s):

agree mstkwasa : The unidentified subject of this sentence may be negligent by his act of allowing, but my reading is that it's 行わしむ thus more likely to involve compulsion from and stresses the responsibility of the unnamed subject. [Edited and added] True, point taken.
4 hrs
Maybe, but contracts/regulations etc are usually designed to protect the party writing them, so they generally state that the other party may not do x or 'allow others to do x' as this is broader (and of course includes 'compelling' others to do x).
agree Mika Jarmusz
6 hrs
Thank you.
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48 mins

have (others) do something

をして is always proceded by a verb in your case 収集(する) and 蓄積(する), and preceded by a person (or quite rarely some animated matters). This is Japanese form of "causative" verb or adverb.
Although a bit archaic, we see this quite often in legal and other formal documents.
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+1
46 mins

make someone to do

他人に~をさせた時の意味だと思います。

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Note added at 58 mins (2008-06-17 03:39:55 GMT)
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Sorry I correct the answer to "make someone do".
Peer comment(s):

agree mstkwasa : 「他人をして行わしめたり」と理解すれば使役で、社員が会社の物品を自らあるいは自分に従う第三者を利用して浪費することを禁じている、ということだと思います。
13 hrs
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