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MikeGarcia
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In memoriam
Jul 18, 2008

...don't accept jobs offered by an individual that writes from a Egyptian IP adress even though he/she purports to live and work in Amsterdam (fake adresses and phones, checked)...the e-mail adress is [email protected] and besides me, she/he's swindled three or four other colleagues, in the USA, in Turkey, Russia and France, all these cases confirmed by the interested parties.

 
MikeGarcia
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Thank you, Roy!!! Jul 18, 2008

I checked the Blue Board Entry and the modus operandi is exactly the same...it's almost certain we are talking about the same person...he/she obviously is, now, trying to do business with translators located in Europe, the USA and latin America, in the ENG/SPA, SPA/ENG language pairs, and he/she has changed her e-mail adress and uses a fake name.

So, colleagues and friends, beware!!! I've warned, through private e-mails, all my contacts, and contacted (denouncing her) the Illinois o
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I checked the Blue Board Entry and the modus operandi is exactly the same...it's almost certain we are talking about the same person...he/she obviously is, now, trying to do business with translators located in Europe, the USA and latin America, in the ENG/SPA, SPA/ENG language pairs, and he/she has changed her e-mail adress and uses a fake name.

So, colleagues and friends, beware!!! I've warned, through private e-mails, all my contacts, and contacted (denouncing her) the Illinois official institution whose files he/she had me translating during a whole week end, so that, at least, he/she can't do any more harm.

One more fact, after he/she was eliminated from Proz.com's outsourcers database, as recorded in the links to the Blue Board Entry, she apparently has pried into another site, TranslatorsCafé, where she already is receiving bad notes and being included in what they call the "Hall of Shame".
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Ralf Lemster
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Not (necessarily) the same Jul 18, 2008

Hi all,
Please note that the forum is not the right place to discuss outsourcers (positive or negative).

Miguel, if you like, contact a Jobs/BB moderator, or submit a Support Request to ProZ.com staff - we would like to take a look at the IP headers of the message(s) you received.

Best regards,
Ralf


 
MikeGarcia
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OK. Jul 18, 2008

Thank you, Ralf.

I am not accustomed to have my words counter checked, so end of the story.

Enjoy your week-end.


 
Ralf Lemster
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Misunderstanding? Jul 18, 2008

Hi again, Miguel,

Thank you, Ralf.

I am not accustomed to have my words counter checked, so end of the story.

I guess you may have misunderstood me. Header data will allow site staff to try and trace fraudulent activity - for example, there might be other guises.

But of course, this is your decision entirely.

Best regards,
Ralf


 
MikeGarcia
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Yes, misunderstanding. Jul 18, 2008

Hello Ralf,

No need to go further, and thank you for your clarifying comments; and since the person in question is to all practical purposes a gangster, changing adresses from Egypt to Amsterdam and so on all the time, no need to go any further. I was only trying to warn everybody....I am not interested in discussing the person as such.

Kind regards, and, again, enjoy your week end.

Mike.

[Edited at 2008-07-18 15:52]


 
Taña Dalglish
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Forgive me, but what then is the correct forum? Jul 18, 2008

Ralf, I don't think Miguel's posting was intended to criticize any outsourcer, whether positive or negative, but was merely a warning to others and perhaps could be looked at in that light.

If all checks possible (through many different sources) have been already been done to determine validity etc., would it not be counterproductive or a duplication of efforts? What more could be done on the part of ProZ to determine that they are indeed false names, addresses, etc.

W
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Ralf, I don't think Miguel's posting was intended to criticize any outsourcer, whether positive or negative, but was merely a warning to others and perhaps could be looked at in that light.

If all checks possible (through many different sources) have been already been done to determine validity etc., would it not be counterproductive or a duplication of efforts? What more could be done on the part of ProZ to determine that they are indeed false names, addresses, etc.

With kindest regards.

Taña

[Edited at 2008-07-18 16:16]
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Ralf Lemster
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Blue Board Jul 18, 2008

Hi Taña,

Ralf, I don't think Miguel's posting was intended to criticize any outsourcer, whether positive or negative, but was merely a warning to others and perhaps could be looked at in that light.

Most certainly - you may have missed another posting identifying an outsourcer by direct reference to a Blue Board record. The BB is the right place for such an exchange of information.

If all checks possible (through many different sources) have been already been done to determine validity etc., would it not be counterproductive or a duplication of efforts? What more could be done on the part of ProZ to determine that they are indeed false names, addresses, etc.

I was not referring to names etc.; without going into too much technical detail, the data accompanying e-mails could be used by ProZ.com staff to check for site activity.

Best regards,
Ralf


 
Taña Dalglish
Taña Dalglish
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Thanks Ralf Jul 18, 2008

Dear Ralf:

Thank you for your clarification.

You quoted: you may have missed another posting identifying an outsourcer by direct reference to a Blue Board record unqote. I must say that I did not know of its existence. Thank you.

Regards

Taña

[Edited at 2008-07-19 13:59]


 
Shouguang Cao
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Joining in the club! Sep 18, 2008

I translated 8000 words for this email and never got any reply after I sent the translation.

 


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