contristar

English translation: upset

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Spanish term or phrase:contristar
English translation:upset
Entered by: Ann Hannigan Breen

16:42 Aug 23, 2013
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Telecom(munications) / EU dialogue with cities
Spanish term or phrase: contristar
También se desprende de esas conversaciones que la causa de la ausencia de ese diálogo real es también el temor a contristar o contradecir el parecer de los estados miembros.

I have never come across this term, through according to the RAE is means the same as 'afligir'. 'Upset" maybe?
Ann Hannigan Breen
Spain
Local time: 23:16
oppose / diverge from
Explanation:
I agree with Phil (I would have urged him to post his suggestion as an answer, but I think he is unfortunately prevented from answering by the restriction to Proz.com members). I think this has got to be an error for "contrastar".

"Contristar" is a rare and archaic word in Spanish. Its use is pretty well entirely confined to the biblical concept of "contristar al Espíritu Santo", based on Ephesians 4:30, "Y no contristéis al Espíritu Santo de Dios" (in the original Reina-Valera version of 1569/1602), which in the King James version is rendered as "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God". You can find quite a few uses of "contristar" in this precise context, but virtually none in modern texts in other contexts. In any case, the complement of "contristar" must be an person or entity to which someone or something causes grief; you can't "contristar" someone's opinion.

But of course you can "contrastar" someone's opinion. The question is, what do they mean by it here? "Contrastar el parecer de alguien" would normally suggest comparing or contrasting that opinion with something, and in practice it often means "corroborate". I don't think this fits the context. Could it possibly suggest revealing or drawing attention to contrasts between the opinions of member states? Again, I don't get that sense from the context; "el parecer de" suggests that the member states have one common position on this. I think "contrastar" has the (nowadays) unusual meaning of "oppose":

"contrastar
4. tr. p. us. Resistir, hacer frente."
http://www.rae.es/drae/srv/search?id=AORoa35x2DXX2UKq4cP7

The combination with "contradecir" and the context ("temor a contrastar") strongly suggest this, I think.

Alternatively, it might possibly be a loose way of saying "contrastar con", meaning to diverge from.

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Note added at 4 days (2013-08-28 09:53:07 GMT) Post-grading
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That's extraordinary! I can hardly believe a Spanish native speaker would have used "contristar" here. Maybe it was a faulty word choice by a non-native speaker. Anyway, thanks very much for choosing my answer despite the fact that it's wrong!
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 23:16
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oppose / diverge from


Explanation:
I agree with Phil (I would have urged him to post his suggestion as an answer, but I think he is unfortunately prevented from answering by the restriction to Proz.com members). I think this has got to be an error for "contrastar".

"Contristar" is a rare and archaic word in Spanish. Its use is pretty well entirely confined to the biblical concept of "contristar al Espíritu Santo", based on Ephesians 4:30, "Y no contristéis al Espíritu Santo de Dios" (in the original Reina-Valera version of 1569/1602), which in the King James version is rendered as "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God". You can find quite a few uses of "contristar" in this precise context, but virtually none in modern texts in other contexts. In any case, the complement of "contristar" must be an person or entity to which someone or something causes grief; you can't "contristar" someone's opinion.

But of course you can "contrastar" someone's opinion. The question is, what do they mean by it here? "Contrastar el parecer de alguien" would normally suggest comparing or contrasting that opinion with something, and in practice it often means "corroborate". I don't think this fits the context. Could it possibly suggest revealing or drawing attention to contrasts between the opinions of member states? Again, I don't get that sense from the context; "el parecer de" suggests that the member states have one common position on this. I think "contrastar" has the (nowadays) unusual meaning of "oppose":

"contrastar
4. tr. p. us. Resistir, hacer frente."
http://www.rae.es/drae/srv/search?id=AORoa35x2DXX2UKq4cP7

The combination with "contradecir" and the context ("temor a contrastar") strongly suggest this, I think.

Alternatively, it might possibly be a loose way of saying "contrastar con", meaning to diverge from.

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Note added at 4 days (2013-08-28 09:53:07 GMT) Post-grading
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That's extraordinary! I can hardly believe a Spanish native speaker would have used "contristar" here. Maybe it was a faulty word choice by a non-native speaker. Anyway, thanks very much for choosing my answer despite the fact that it's wrong!

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 23:16
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 25
Notes to answerer
Asker: Sorry to disagree, but I did check with the author and it is "contristar". So "upset" was my final decision.

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