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Allá ustedes

English translation: It´s at your own risk if you...

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Spanish term or phrase:Allá ustedes
English translation:It´s at your own risk if you...
Entered by: Susana Mate

14:20 Jun 6, 2006
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Slang / Slang
Spanish term or phrase: Allá ustedes
This is a letter for a legal action. It is a man who wrote a letter to his family, it is quite threatening. At the end I found this expression: "Allá ustedes si no aceptan estas condiciones". How can I translate the "Alla ustedes" part_ Thank you!
Maria Coonley
Local time: 12:00
It´s at your own risk if you don´t...
Explanation:
I think that the expression "Allá ustedes" implies much more than just leaving the decission up to them (as the English expression "it´s up to you" reflects). It also implies that there are consequences if they don´t, and that the person issueing the warning or threat doesn´t consider him or herself responsible for those consequences.
Selected response from:

Susana Mate
Grading comment
Yes, you are absolutely right. Thank you, and thanks to all who answered, I really appreciate your help!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4that's your problem...
Sergio Gaymer
4 +3It´s at your own risk if you don´t...
Susana Mate
4 +2Suit yourselves if...
Elena Robles Sanjuan
4 +1Its not my problem if you don't...../if you don't accept.. then you can lump it.
cw010 (X)
4 +1the responsibility will be entirely yours
Matthew Smith
4 +1be it upon your own heads (if you don't accept...)
neilmac
4up to thee / up to you...
Romanian Translator (X)


  

Answers


2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
that's your problem...


Explanation:
:)

Sergio Gaymer
Chile
Local time: 11:00
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 17

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Claudia Aguero
9 mins
  -> Gracias mil Claudia
agree  Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
12 mins
  -> Muchas gracias Patricia
agree  Denise DeVries
19 mins
  -> Thanks Denise
agree  Egmont
2 hrs
  -> gracias Egmont
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Its not my problem if you don't...../if you don't accept.. then you can lump it.


Explanation:
suggestions.

cw010 (X)
Local time: 11:00
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gabriel Vallecillo: "Its not my problem if you don't..."
28 mins
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
up to thee / up to you...


Explanation:
Normally it would be translated by "is up to you" but bearing in mind that the tone of the letter is sharp and threatening, you could also use "up to thee" giving it a more formal/ cold tone.

UP FRONT: WORTH NOTING; If a Sign Offends Thee - New York TimesUP FRONT: WORTH NOTING; If a Sign Offends Thee ... The new ordinance, which carries a fine up to $100 a day, merely slams shut a loophole. ...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage. html?res=9D06E3DD153DF934A15751C0A9639C8B63 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


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Note added at 6 mins (2006-06-06 14:27:24 GMT)
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Leadership From WithinBut if it is to be, "it is up to thee." Start by keeping a journal. Don't lose your ideas; write them down. See which ones keep coming back. ...
www.fulcrumsearchscience.com/Articles/LeadershipFromWithin.... - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

on glamourbombingWhat form they take is up to thee individual participants. Ive also used grafitti (same message as thee scrolls), and considered placing ads in local papers ...
www.eristic.net/fey/gbomb/gbombing.html - 4k - Cached -

Re: The Borg and The Baha'isIf hearing about something that may cuase questions or instil doubt, it is up to thee individual, official or not, to investigate and report the claim or ...
http://bahai-library.com/wwwboard/messages03/772.html


Romanian Translator (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:00
Native speaker of: Romanian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  María José Cerdá
4 mins
  -> muchas gracias Majo!
neutral  Matthew Smith: I find this extremely strange, almost Biblical
24 mins
  -> it does have a biblical flavour, you're right. what I meant to say was : It is up to you... take it or lump it :)
disagree  neilmac: Sounds very odd and antiquated, and the links have spelling mistakes
3 hrs
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
It´s at your own risk if you don´t...


Explanation:
I think that the expression "Allá ustedes" implies much more than just leaving the decission up to them (as the English expression "it´s up to you" reflects). It also implies that there are consequences if they don´t, and that the person issueing the warning or threat doesn´t consider him or herself responsible for those consequences.

Susana Mate
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Yes, you are absolutely right. Thank you, and thanks to all who answered, I really appreciate your help!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sery
9 mins
agree  Rosa Maria Duenas Rios (X): Totally agree with you
25 mins
agree  Jairo Payan: I like your reasoning about this matter
1 hr
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Suit yourselves if...


Explanation:
Another option :-)

Elena Robles Sanjuan
Local time: 19:00
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Pablo Mayen
2 mins
  -> Gracias Pablo
agree  Denise DeVries
12 mins
  -> Gracias Denise
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the responsibility will be entirely yours


Explanation:
another suggestion

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Note added at 22 mins (2006-06-06 14:43:42 GMT)
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you will have to face the consequences if

Matthew Smith
Spain
Local time: 19:00
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  neilmac: nice and modern... the selected answer sounds a bit foreign to me...
2 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
be it upon your own heads (if you don't accept...)


Explanation:
This also sounds rather old-fashioned because of the use of "be" but is still common in UK English.

neilmac
Spain
Local time: 19:00
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 40

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Matthew Smith: I agree- the chosen answer doesn't sound very natural to me, but that happens a lot on ProZ, in my opinion.
6 mins
  -> Cheers Matt :)
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