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brújula y norte

English translation: compass and pole star / north star

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Spanish term or phrase:brújula y norte
English translation:compass and pole star / north star
Entered by: Bubo Coroman (X)

17:52 May 7, 2010
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Philosophy / education, rhetoric
Spanish term or phrase: brújula y norte
Is there a standard way to translate this? Thanks in advance!

Dicho en términos metafóricos, una teoría que sirva a los profesores como brújula y norte en su tarea de facilitadores de la comunidad de investigación, al menos en lo que a materia argumentativa se refiere.
Patricia Rosas
United States
Local time: 21:30
compass and pole star / compass and north star
Explanation:
I think "norte" refers not to the pointer on the compass (that would be pleonastic) but to the heavens which guide travellers at sea and in the Arabian desert

examples of the use of the two terms:

http://www.google.es/#hl=es&rlz=1W1ACPW_es&q="compass and po...

http://www.google.es/#hl=es&rlz=1W1ACPW_es&q="compass and No...

Information about the pole star (also known as the north star):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_star
Selected response from:

Bubo Coroman (X)
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for the abundance of good answers. Deborah's answer fits beautifully into the text (and I know somewhere long ago I heard or read "compass and pole star"). Thank you, Deborah!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3as compass and north
Leonardo Lamarche
4 +3(as a) guiding light/star
Edward Tully
4 +1(a theory) that will provide an adequate orientation (to professors ...)
Jenni Lukac (X)
4compass
Nelson Aguillon
4serve as a compass (to guide/point/lead them "north")
Cinnamon Nolan
3a theory that guides the efforts of professors
Robert Forstag
3compass and pole star / compass and north star
Bubo Coroman (X)


  

Answers


9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
compass


Explanation:
En USA se utiliza solamente el término "compass" para referirse al grupo encargado de asegurarse que los demás individuos o grupos, se mantengan enfocados en las metas o propósitos establecidos.

Nelson Aguillon
United States
Local time: 21:30
Native speaker of: Spanish
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
as compass and north


Explanation:
Creo que una traducción literal encaja muy bien en el texto y su significado. Algo que le indique los diferentes caminos posibles (brújula) y además el mejor camino (el norte).
Mi sugerencia.

Leonardo Lamarche
Venezuela
Local time: 00:30
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  coolbrowne
1 min
  -> Muchas gracias cool.
agree  Leticia Rigano
20 mins
  -> Muchas gracias Leticia.
agree  imatahan
59 mins
  -> Muchas gracias imatahan.
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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
serve as a compass (to guide/point/lead them "north")


Explanation:
I agree with Caminante that usually "compass" is enough. However, you can include the other reference as well (some people might use the compass to go west instead of north...).

The fact that the guide is an international standard means that it is a point of ...... ISO/IEC 20000 will increasingly serve as a compass, the guide that enables us to locate “north” and enables service providers to achieve their ...
www.exin-exams.com/.../ITSMGLOBALBP volume1_8 2_Secured pdf...

A compass for health: rethinking precaution and its role in ...by JA Tickner - 2003 - Cited by 16 - Related articles
In this context, precaution becomes a compass to guide decisions under .... how precaution can serve as a compass directing society towards practices that ...
ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/32/4/489

This information can help serve as a compass to point you to some of the many possibilities for ...
www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/family/.../spirit.htm - United States

17 Aug 2009 ... from one chord to another) serve as a compass; they point the direction to the ....
www.slate.com/id/2225336 -

Cinnamon Nolan
Spain
Local time: 06:30
Native speaker of: English
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
(as a) guiding light/star


Explanation:
"as compass and north" doesn't exist in English...

Edward Tully
Local time: 06:30
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Christine Walsh: Sounds best to me
2 hrs
  -> thank you Christine! ;-)
agree  Hermeneutica: Like this one best.
21 hrs
  -> many thanks! ;-)
agree  JPW (X): Sounds good to me
2 days 17 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
una teoría que sirva a los profesores como brújula y norte
a theory that guides the efforts of professors


Explanation:
A fairly simple approach that I think captures the idea.

I don't see any need to replicate the redundancy of "brújula y norte" and "compass" seems a bit overblown in the present context, at least to my ear. "North" certainly does not work in English.

Suerte.

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 00:30
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(a theory) that will provide an adequate orientation (to professors ...)


Explanation:
Another option. Or "that will provide a means of orientation to professors..." A compass (that apart from the Devil's Triangle and one other place indicates magnetic north) or other means of finding "true north" (that is a metaphor for finding one's way) are all methods of orientation.

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 06:30
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 40

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gloria Rivera: This option conveys the meaning of the text. Yay! :)
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Gloria. "Adequate" could replaced with "sound", etc.
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
compass and pole star / compass and north star


Explanation:
I think "norte" refers not to the pointer on the compass (that would be pleonastic) but to the heavens which guide travellers at sea and in the Arabian desert

examples of the use of the two terms:

http://www.google.es/#hl=es&rlz=1W1ACPW_es&q="compass and po...

http://www.google.es/#hl=es&rlz=1W1ACPW_es&q="compass and No...

Information about the pole star (also known as the north star):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_star

Bubo Coroman (X)
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 52
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for the abundance of good answers. Deborah's answer fits beautifully into the text (and I know somewhere long ago I heard or read "compass and pole star"). Thank you, Deborah!
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