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2do apellido

English translation: 2nd surname

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Spanish term or phrase:2do apellido
English translation:2nd surname
Entered by: Lydianette Soza

15:15 Aug 30, 2007
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Certifications
Spanish term or phrase: 2do apellido
Estoy traduciendo una partida de nacimiento. Por lo general el formato en español es:

----------------- ------------------ ------------------- ---------------
1er nombre 2do nombre 1er apellido 2do apellido

Para 1er nombre: Logico, First name
para 2do nombre: Middle Name
Para 1er apellido: Last Name
Para 2do apellido: Como quedaría este

O debo traducirlo y estructurarlo de la sig. manera:

------------ ------------- --------------- ----------------
1st name 2nd name Last Name

A fin de que Last Name incluya ambos: El primer y segundo apellido.

Esta correcto?

Alguna sugerencia mejor?

Gracias de ante mano
Lydianette Soza
Belize
Local time: 17:11
2nd surname
Explanation:
Although our information can usually only be accessed via a ... We will email them, inviting them to visit our web site and ... 2nd surname. 2nd ...

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Note added at 6 mins (2007-08-30 15:21:44 GMT)
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Spanish Surname Meanings & Origins - Hispanic Last Names
Uncover the meaning of your Spanish last name with this free guide ... paterno), and the last name (2nd surname) is the mother's maiden name (apellido materno)
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Norbert Hermann
Local time: 00:11
Grading comment
Thanks a lot!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +8mother's maiden name (if used)
Marian Greenfield
4 +1Full Name and Surname
Lilian Duek
42nd family name
Steven Capsuto
3 +12nd surname
Norbert Hermann
3 +1maternal surname
Margaret Schroeder


Discussion entries: 5





  

Answers


1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
2nd family name


Explanation:
I usually use "1st family name" and "2nd family name."

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Note added at 2 mins (2007-08-30 15:18:12 GMT)
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However, if the phrase is "nombre y apellidos" I often put "full name."

Steven Capsuto
United States
Local time: 19:11
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
2nd surname


Explanation:
Although our information can usually only be accessed via a ... We will email them, inviting them to visit our web site and ... 2nd surname. 2nd ...

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Note added at 6 mins (2007-08-30 15:21:44 GMT)
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Spanish Surname Meanings & Origins - Hispanic Last Names
Uncover the meaning of your Spanish last name with this free guide ... paterno), and the last name (2nd surname) is the mother's maiden name (apellido materno)

Norbert Hermann
Local time: 00:11
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks a lot!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Steven Capsuto: Also an option. I wish the asker had specified whether she wanted American English or Commonwealth English.
1 min
agree  Silvia Brandon-Pérez: I always use this one in my translations.
7 mins
  -> thanks :-)! Seems there is more than one way to skin this cat.
agree  Joseph Tein: I would use 'surname.' My Gran Diccionario Oxford says 'surname' = 'apellido' and I would always use fewer words wherever possible.
7 mins
disagree  Heidi C: This is a literal translation that makes no sense in US Eng. US Birth Certificates use "mother maiden name". And your example is trying to explain what a 2nd surname is, not using it as a term.
1 hr
  -> don't forget, the world exists not just of the US - and the asker's additional reference to a US document came well after I put my answer.
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +8
mother's maiden name (if used)


Explanation:
the segundo apellido is the mother's maiden name and, depending on context, may need an explanation, but generally the above will serve...

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Marian Greenfield
Local time: 19:11
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1595

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Margarita Gonzalez: But of course, my dear Marian: quick and well explained answer.
2 mins
  -> Thanks!!!!
agree  Lydia De Jorge
4 mins
  -> thanks
agree  Margaret Schroeder: For the reasons I put in my suggestion, but this is the better option.
4 mins
  -> THanks much Margaret...
agree  Steven Capsuto: An outstanding solution. (But we expected nothing less from you.) :)
5 mins
  -> Thanks fellow Jerseyite!!!!
agree  Ximena P. Aguilar
7 mins
  -> thanks
agree  Heidi C: This is definitely the way an English speaker would understand it. The literal translation makes no sense in my opinion...
1 hr
  -> thanks Heidi... I agree, don't know why the asker bother to ask about American English, then went with an answer that wouldn't serve very well in the U.S. Grrrrrrr
agree  Ana Maria Bustos K.
3 hrs
  -> thanks
agree  Brian McDougall: Yes, unless the parents have never married, in which case I'd go for "mother's last name", though even that wouldn't work if the mother is married to someone other than the father. By the way. British people wouldn't understand second last name either.
3 hrs
  -> thanks!!! especially for the chuckle about 2nd last name....
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Full Name and Surname


Explanation:
Esta es otra opción para englobar totalmente los nombres y los apellidos, sino second surname/last name, también es correcto.
Suerte

Lilian Duek
Argentina
Local time: 20:11
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Katarina Peters: Full Name is what I always use, that includes all the names listed.
2 hrs
  -> thanks Katarina!!
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
maternal surname


Explanation:
¿La traducción es para fines de información, o para el uso de los no hispanohablantes? Si es el segundo, es muy probable que el usuario de habla inglés no tiene segundo apellido. Entonces, ¿qué le exigirán, que lo deje en blanco o que escriba de todos modos su apellido maternal aunque ése no forma parte de su apellido legal? Como angloparlante (con un solo apellido) viviendo en un país hispanohablante, he topado con ambos casos. Ofrezco esta alternativa para el caso de que quieren el apellido maternal, sea o no parte del nombre oficial de la persona.

Margaret Schroeder
Mexico
Local time: 17:11
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 35

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marian Greenfield: definitely agree with the explanation... here in the U.S., as you noted, mother's maiden name would be the way to go...
1 hr
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