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"porvenir," used as a verb

English translation: descend

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Spanish term or phrase:"pROvenir," used as a verb
English translation:descend
Entered by: MPGS

16:06 Sep 24, 2012
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Spanish term or phrase: "porvenir," used as a verb
"siendo ... los Talmages lo más aristocráticos ... por *porvenir* de un estirpe titulada ..."

The apparent sense is "being descended from." But all my sources list "porvenir" as a noun, relating to future events, prospects, anticipations.

The document is a family history; written, I believe, in Chile, tho the families concerned were in New England and on Long Island, New York. This part of the text has to do with "first families" of Long Island.

Archaic usage, perhaps?
Stephen D. Moore
United States
Local time: 15:04
descend
Explanation:
typo:
provenir.
(Del lat. provenīre, crecer, desenvolverse).
1. intr. Dicho de una persona o de una cosa: Nacer, originarse, proceder de un lugar, de otra persona, de otra cosa, etc.
MORF. conjug. c. venir.
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descend from ...

:)

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Note added at 5 days (2012-09-30 07:55:51 GMT) Post-grading
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Gracias a todos
:)
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MPGS
Local time: 21:04
Grading comment
Thanks to all, and particualrly to bigedsenior, for throwing out the term "provenance.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4descend
MPGS
4descending or deriving
GillW (MCIL)


Discussion entries: 4





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
\"porvenir,\" used as a verb
descending or deriving


Explanation:
could be a typo of "por venir de"

GillW (MCIL)
Local time: 20:04
Native speaker of: English
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
descend


Explanation:
typo:
provenir.
(Del lat. provenīre, crecer, desenvolverse).
1. intr. Dicho de una persona o de una cosa: Nacer, originarse, proceder de un lugar, de otra persona, de otra cosa, etc.
MORF. conjug. c. venir.
Real Academia Española © Todos los derechos reservados
:)

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Note added at 8 mins (2012-09-24 16:14:40 GMT)
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descend from ...

:)

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Note added at 5 days (2012-09-30 07:55:51 GMT) Post-grading
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Gracias a todos
:)

MPGS
Local time: 21:04
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
Thanks to all, and particualrly to bigedsenior, for throwing out the term "provenance.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  María Perales
1 min
  -> muchas gracias, María. Saludos :)
agree  philgoddard
3 mins
  -> Thank you Phil. Best. :)
agree  Monica Colangelo
23 mins
  -> thank you, trixiemck. Best :)
agree  Denise Phelps
36 mins
  -> thank you, Denise. Best :)
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