efecto llamada

inglés translation: pull effect

10:42 Jul 20, 2020
Traducciones de español a inglés [PRO]
Social Sciences - Gobierno / Política / Youth immigration policies
Término o frase en español: efecto llamada
SPAIN. The term appears in an article about teenage emigration/immigration. There is already a glossary entry - "call effect" - posted by someone from Argentina, but I'm not keen on it. Any more inspiring suggestions will be appreciated.

"La expresión «efecto llamada» fue utilizada por miembros del Partido Popular (PP) de España para describir una de las posibles consecuencias del proceso de regulación de inmigrantes decretado por el gobierno presidido por José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, entre los meses de febrero y mayo de 2005."
neilmac
España
Local time: 12:44
Traducción al inglés:pull effect
Explicación:
This is one of the cases where the one-size-fits-all rule does not work. There are several possible renderings available and being used, such as “pull effect”, “call effect” (you dislike it), “magnet effect”, etc. Just judging by the simple number of hits on English pages, “pull effect” seems to be the winner, and that is the reason why I am posting it as an option in this query. But this does not mean at all that other feasible options are worse or even wrong.

As for the “inspiration”, I do not know, really. I think “pull effect” works well, but, again, I am sure there are other good alternatives.

https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/31901/WP 30, 2006.pdf
Spain’s Immigration Experience: Lessons to be Learned from Looking at the Statistics
XXXXX
Working Paper (WP) 30/2006
1/12/2006

However, the most spectacular finding is not the significant drop in the number of irregular immigrants in Spain, but some information in the INE’s press release, when it made public the results of its analysis of the local population register. According to the INE, the net increase in the number of foreigners enrolled in the local population register was 650,000 in 2004, compared with 647,000 in 2005.13 A net increase of 650,000 immigrants is indeed an intriguing piece of information since it contradicts the popular notion that the extraordinary regularisation campaign should have triggered a ‘pull effect’ (efecto llamada) in 2005 bringing more new immigrants to Spain than in a normal year.

https://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/downloads/policy_reports/i...
IrregularMigrants:
The urgent need for a new approach

The Spanish regularisation had the backing of employers (some believe it was employer driven), trade unions, NGOs and the Spanish regions. It has been criticised from a number of perspectives – some critics were concerned about the level of migration and the long term impact particularly when the economic situation deteriorates; regions were unhappy that the financial benefits largely go to the central government rather than the regions; some worried about the likely pull effect. The exercise itself was described as daunting and stressful, but has been cited with approval by many policymakers

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-19487321
Spain's migrant healthcare dilemma
By XXXXX BBC News, Madrid

However she also says Spain's free public health system has contributed to a "pull effect", making it "very attractive for immigrants, especially illegal ones, to come to Spain".
The new law will, she argues, make it "more difficult" for those people and may reduce the "pull effect" now and beyond Spain's financial crisis.

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Toni Castano
España
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4 +4pull effect
Toni Castano
4call/attraction effect
David Hollywood
3 +1the draw
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pull effect


Explicación:
This is one of the cases where the one-size-fits-all rule does not work. There are several possible renderings available and being used, such as “pull effect”, “call effect” (you dislike it), “magnet effect”, etc. Just judging by the simple number of hits on English pages, “pull effect” seems to be the winner, and that is the reason why I am posting it as an option in this query. But this does not mean at all that other feasible options are worse or even wrong.

As for the “inspiration”, I do not know, really. I think “pull effect” works well, but, again, I am sure there are other good alternatives.

https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/31901/WP 30, 2006.pdf
Spain’s Immigration Experience: Lessons to be Learned from Looking at the Statistics
XXXXX
Working Paper (WP) 30/2006
1/12/2006

However, the most spectacular finding is not the significant drop in the number of irregular immigrants in Spain, but some information in the INE’s press release, when it made public the results of its analysis of the local population register. According to the INE, the net increase in the number of foreigners enrolled in the local population register was 650,000 in 2004, compared with 647,000 in 2005.13 A net increase of 650,000 immigrants is indeed an intriguing piece of information since it contradicts the popular notion that the extraordinary regularisation campaign should have triggered a ‘pull effect’ (efecto llamada) in 2005 bringing more new immigrants to Spain than in a normal year.

https://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/downloads/policy_reports/i...
IrregularMigrants:
The urgent need for a new approach

The Spanish regularisation had the backing of employers (some believe it was employer driven), trade unions, NGOs and the Spanish regions. It has been criticised from a number of perspectives – some critics were concerned about the level of migration and the long term impact particularly when the economic situation deteriorates; regions were unhappy that the financial benefits largely go to the central government rather than the regions; some worried about the likely pull effect. The exercise itself was described as daunting and stressful, but has been cited with approval by many policymakers

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-19487321
Spain's migrant healthcare dilemma
By XXXXX BBC News, Madrid

However she also says Spain's free public health system has contributed to a "pull effect", making it "very attractive for immigrants, especially illegal ones, to come to Spain".
The new law will, she argues, make it "more difficult" for those people and may reduce the "pull effect" now and beyond Spain's financial crisis.



Toni Castano
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Thanks for the help and comments :-9
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Usuario que pregunta: Cheers TC, this is actually what I had pencilled in, although it's mostly used in marketing.


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Coincido  patinba
1 hora
  -> Thank you patinba.

Coincido  Paulina Sobelman
2 horas
  -> Thank you Paulina.

Coincido  philgoddard: This answer has been suggested before, and I agree that "call" is OK too. http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/economics/12309..."efecto-llamada".html
2 horas
  -> Yes, I agree with "call" too, but Neil doesn´t like it and it´s his prerogative to decide on this. Thanks for your confirmation.

Coincido  Marcelo González: call or pull effect, but 'draw effect' would also work just fine, given the use of 'draw' meaning 'attraction' (or to attract) in other contexts where people feel encouraged or motivated to go somewhere, allowing themselves to be drawn-in.
19 horas
  -> Yes, I agree there are several options that would work well. Thanks, Marcelo.
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the draw


Explicación:
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The Draw of Something Familiar – Living The Q Life
livingtheqlife.co › 2015/10/19 › the-draw-of-somethin...
The Draw of Something Familiar. October 19, 2015. We love going to places that we've never visited before and learning about the different cultures. Sometimes ...

Yulia Niko | Crosstown Rebels
www.crosstownrebels.com › artists › yulia-niko
For others, the draw of something a little more bespoke is too strong to ignore. For Russian-born Yulia Niko, a life less ordinary was always her dream, a life she ...

Why marketers shouldn't fall for fast-food… - Firefly ...
fireflycomms.com › 2019/03/25 › marketers-food-even...
25 Mar 2019 - While it can be good to push the boat out a little, don't let the draw of something seemingly tantalising and tasty allow you to get carried away.

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Coincido  Marcelo González: a 'draw effect' would work just fine, as 'draw' already communicates 'attraction' in other contexts, as your references suggest
18 horas
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call/attraction effect


Explicación:
This appears in a text about migration and the effects for Spain. ... hand, and the call effect ('efecto llamada') that Spain as a pole of attraction ...


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https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/economics/1230...

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was just researching and this came up without a ref to proz so already covered

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that in addition to promoting illegal immigration, the 'call effect' is being supported, making life easier for mafia groups [...] europarl.europa.eu
[...] además de fomentar las migraciones ilegales, se fomenta el "efecto llamada", facilitando la acción de las mafias que trafican [...]

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The “call effect” exists, and it is directly related to potential migrants’ expectations
of finding a job in the receiving country.

http://lastradainternational.org/lsidocs/immigration and wel...

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reminds me of a trip to Morocco and on the way back we had kids trying to get across to Europe by clinging on to the axles of our tour bus...sad reality

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