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niveles latitudinales suprasílvicos

English translation: treeline

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Spanish term or phrase:niveles altitudinales suprasílvicos
English translation:treeline
Entered by: jeff robson

15:13 Jun 30, 2005
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Forestry / Wood / Timber
Spanish term or phrase: niveles latitudinales suprasílvicos
territorios como los roquedos, humedales, dunas y niveles latitudinales suprasílvicos
SarahClarkG
Local time: 08:04
treeline
Explanation:
more coloquial

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Note added at 4 days (2005-07-05 10:17:46 GMT)
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here´s a link to mountain treeline camping:http://gorp.away.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/ethics.htm. There are lots more. This is the context of mountain height. If you are taliking about the hemispheric latitude above which trees do not grow because of year-round frost, it may be more appropriate to use \"permafrost region\" (see www.msc.ec.gc.ca/crysys/education/ permafrost/permafrost). Although we usually discuss the part of earth´s surface covered by permafrost, as this is not a static geographical division.

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Note added at 4 days (2005-07-05 14:09:55 GMT)
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another example: the lyrics to Pink Floyd´s \"Fearless\" as follows

You say the hill\'s too steep to climb
Just climb it
You say you\'d like to see me try
Climbing
You pick the place and I\'ll choose the time
And I\'ll climb
The hill in my own way
Just wait a while for the right day
And as I rise above the ****tree lines*** and the clouds
I look down
Hear the sound of the things you said today


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Note added at 5 days (2005-07-06 14:25:04 GMT)
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or above-treeline terrain, or, at elavations above the treeline...and when will this question get graded? I´m interested in the answer
Selected response from:

jeff robson
Grading comment
It was altitudes. Sorry for delay in grading.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1supraforest latitudes
MPGS
5treeline
jeff robson
4high-latitude zones above the treeline
Diana Bouchard
4supraforest altitudes / supraforest latitudes [discussion]
Muriel Vasconcellos


Discussion entries: 3





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
niveles latitudinales suprasílvicos
supraforest latitudes


Explanation:
i believe that "niveles latitudinales" is redundant for "latitudinales" (de latitud)

:)

MPGS
Local time: 08:04
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marina Soldati
25 mins
  -> Gracias Marina :)
neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: After giving the question some thought, I'm convinced that the author meant to say "supraforest altitudes," but I would prefer your solution as a second choice, because it is a strict literal translation with no added interpretation.
15 hrs
  -> Thank you Muriel :)
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
niveles latitudinales suprasílvicos
high-latitude zones above the treeline


Explanation:
A tract of land may be "above the treeline" because it is high-ALTITUDE (i.e. high up on a mountain) or high-LATITUDE (i.e. close to the North or South Pole). Since the phrase refers to high latitudes, I think you have to capture that thought ...

Diana Bouchard
Canada
Local time: 02:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: OK, I see your point now. Maybe you're right.
9 hrs
  -> OK, equator is zero latitude. North (or South) Pole is 90. Low-latitude is, say, 20. High-latitude may be,say, 70.
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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
niveles latitudinales suprasílvicos
supraforest altitudes / supraforest latitudes [discussion]


Explanation:
The author probably meant "altitudes," but we can't be 100% sure without checking with him/her directly.The only possibility of "latitudes" would be if the text is referring to polar areas, which doesn't seem to be the case. You can choose between giving a strictly literal translation ("supraforest latitudes"), which is what the author actually said, or "correcting" the author's mistake ("supraforest altitudes") but not venturing too far from the original with interpretations such as "above the treeline," which accentuate the difference.

Here are some examples I found of "supraforest" (note that it is used in accepted classifications of land use):

Geographic Information System: Classification of land use in ...
... 11, Fruit trees on unirrigated land. 12, Fruit trees on irrigated land. 13, Vineyard.
14, **Supraforest meadows**. 15, Scrub and meadows. 16, Sclerophyll forest. ...
www.medi-ambient.net/sig/fusos92-a.htm

The origin of these birds was probably related to the appearance of high Andean
open **supraforest environments** in the Northern Andes and the northern Central ...
www.bioone.org/bioone/?request=

[PDF] Butterfly species richness in the north-west Mediterranean Basin ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
**Supraforest meadows**. 8.86. Scrub and meadows. 1161.98. Sclerophyll forest. 626.22.
Deciduous forest. 257.11. Aciculifolia forest. 817.27. Wetland vegetation ...
www.museugranollers.org/ ~cbms/recursos/Article_jbi1088.pdf

GEOMORPHOLOGICAL APPROACH TO THE AIT ABDI KARST PLATEAU (CENTRAL ...
587) for the Mediterranean karst: "We are dealing with **supraforest or discontinuously
forested karst**, with doline fields and ancient talweg networks ...
www.cscfr.ch/publications/ cours_feuilles_style/media/exercice.txt

[PDF] IMP REPORT
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
**supraforest grassland** used by livestock and cha-. mois during the summer.
We located twelve. different marmot colonies in the area. To ...
www.mountainecology.org/IBEX2/PDF/REPORT.pdf - Similar pages

[PDF] ##PAGES--Tues/23 Sept
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
morphological substitution taking place in the **supraforest. landscapes** of the
mountains in Catalonia. José L. Peña. Monné summarized the status and ...
www.geo.uio.no/IPA/FG22.pdf

larixeuropaea
Microclimatic and bioclimatic researches on some plant communities of the **forest
and supraforest zones** of the subalpine level in the Alps. Ecologia ...
www.newcrops.uq.edu.au/listing/larixeuropaea.htm


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Note added at 17 hrs 48 mins (2005-07-01 09:02:13 GMT)
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Of course it would be best to be able to check with the author. That was a given. However, in over 30 years of full-time translation, I\'ve found that more often than not it has been impossible to query the author. My suggestion was such a case.

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 23:04
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  MPGS: Muriel, I understand your reasoning and even accept that the author is probably wrong. But I thing you solve such issues by checking w/ the author or w/ a T Note, not changing the original :) ... right :)
1 hr
  -> That would be ideal, but I've had many clients who refused to accept questions, even more who were second or third parties to the original, so there was no way of finding out. My suggestion assumed that there was no way to check with the author.
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
niveles latitudinales suprasílvicos
treeline


Explanation:
more coloquial

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 days (2005-07-05 10:17:46 GMT)
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here´s a link to mountain treeline camping:http://gorp.away.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/ethics.htm. There are lots more. This is the context of mountain height. If you are taliking about the hemispheric latitude above which trees do not grow because of year-round frost, it may be more appropriate to use \"permafrost region\" (see www.msc.ec.gc.ca/crysys/education/ permafrost/permafrost). Although we usually discuss the part of earth´s surface covered by permafrost, as this is not a static geographical division.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 days (2005-07-05 14:09:55 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

another example: the lyrics to Pink Floyd´s \"Fearless\" as follows

You say the hill\'s too steep to climb
Just climb it
You say you\'d like to see me try
Climbing
You pick the place and I\'ll choose the time
And I\'ll climb
The hill in my own way
Just wait a while for the right day
And as I rise above the ****tree lines*** and the clouds
I look down
Hear the sound of the things you said today


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Note added at 5 days (2005-07-06 14:25:04 GMT)
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or above-treeline terrain, or, at elavations above the treeline...and when will this question get graded? I´m interested in the answer

jeff robson
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
It was altitudes. Sorry for delay in grading.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: If your interpretation is correct (we can't know for sure), in any case "treeline" is not a recognized forest classification.
15 hrs
  -> see note added
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