4º Medio B

inglés translation: 4th year / grade of secondary education [add note] group B

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Término o frase en español:4º Medio B
Traducción al inglés:4th year / grade of secondary education [add note] group B
Aportado por: Ana Ribeiro

16:39 Dec 8, 2017
Traducciones de español a inglés [PRO]
Educación / Pedagogía / 4º Medio B
Término o frase en español: 4º Medio B
...xxx quien ha cursado en el ano escolar 2004 el 4º medio B de Enseñanza Media H-C- Niños y Jóvenes...
This is an High School transcript from Chile.
Not sure about "medio B".
Ana Ribeiro
Portugal
Local time: 05:14
4th year / grade of secondary education [add note] group B
Explicación:
In Chile 4º Medio is the 4th year (UK) or grade (US) of enseñanza media (ages 14-17), which comes after enseñanza básica (ages 6-13). So enseñanza media is secondary education, but it starts a year later than in Spain and two years later than in England and Wales.

"Primary school: (Enseñanza básica) for children aged 6–13 years old, divided into 8 grades.
Secondary school: (Enseñanza media) for teenagers aged 14–17 years old, divided into 4 grades."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Chile#Levels_of_e...

So 4º medio is the final year of secondary education.

This should be translated literally and an equivalent given in a note or in brackets. The equivalent will depend on the target. For example, in the US the equivalent is 12th grade, in England and Wales it is Year 13, in Scotland it is Sixth Year (S6) and in Northern Ireland it is Year 14. It would helpful to indicate that it is normally for ages 17-18.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_form

In Spain the equivalent is 2.º bachillerato.

The B corresponds to a group or class within the year/grade. There are many Chilean school websites that refer to 4º Medio A, 4º Medio B, 4º Medio C, etc., and similarly for other years of Básico and Medio. Here's one, for example:
http://www.aulavirtualrcv.com/aula/moodle/course/index.php?c...

I think it's likely that these are streams (as they'd be called in the UK): in other words, A is the top stream academically, B the next, etc. On the other hand, they could correspond to subject concentrations. It could be that they have different meanings in different schools. But you don't need to know that; just put B or group B, and leave it at that.


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Note added at 22 hrs (2017-12-09 15:33:40 GMT)
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Sorry, I've just realised that what I said in the first paragraph above is wrong: Chilean enseñanza media begins at age 14, which is two years later than ESO in Spain and three years later than secondary education in England and Wales.
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Charles Davis
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4th year / grade of secondary education [add note] group B


Explicación:
In Chile 4º Medio is the 4th year (UK) or grade (US) of enseñanza media (ages 14-17), which comes after enseñanza básica (ages 6-13). So enseñanza media is secondary education, but it starts a year later than in Spain and two years later than in England and Wales.

"Primary school: (Enseñanza básica) for children aged 6–13 years old, divided into 8 grades.
Secondary school: (Enseñanza media) for teenagers aged 14–17 years old, divided into 4 grades."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Chile#Levels_of_e...

So 4º medio is the final year of secondary education.

This should be translated literally and an equivalent given in a note or in brackets. The equivalent will depend on the target. For example, in the US the equivalent is 12th grade, in England and Wales it is Year 13, in Scotland it is Sixth Year (S6) and in Northern Ireland it is Year 14. It would helpful to indicate that it is normally for ages 17-18.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_form

In Spain the equivalent is 2.º bachillerato.

The B corresponds to a group or class within the year/grade. There are many Chilean school websites that refer to 4º Medio A, 4º Medio B, 4º Medio C, etc., and similarly for other years of Básico and Medio. Here's one, for example:
http://www.aulavirtualrcv.com/aula/moodle/course/index.php?c...

I think it's likely that these are streams (as they'd be called in the UK): in other words, A is the top stream academically, B the next, etc. On the other hand, they could correspond to subject concentrations. It could be that they have different meanings in different schools. But you don't need to know that; just put B or group B, and leave it at that.


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Note added at 22 hrs (2017-12-09 15:33:40 GMT)
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Sorry, I've just realised that what I said in the first paragraph above is wrong: Chilean enseñanza media begins at age 14, which is two years later than ESO in Spain and three years later than secondary education in England and Wales.

Charles Davis
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Neutral  Christian Nielsen-Palacios: I studied "high school" in Venezuela (what comes after elementary or primary school). For each of the five years, we were separated into five groups of 40 students each. I was in 'Sección B". Primero B, Segundo B, and so on.
1 día 5 horas
  -> Hi Christian. That sounds like what I've suggested: "B" must correspond to one of a series of groups or sections in each year.
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Reference information:
El Ministerio de Educación es el responsable de gestionar la educación y garantizar el acceso en todos sus niveles y modalidades. Es de carácter obligatoria desde los 5 hasta los 17 años y se estructura en cuatro etapas:

Preescolar. Está dirigida a los niños de entre seis meses y seis años pero tiene carácter obligatorio tan solo el último curso (de 5 a 6 años).
Básica. Va desde los 6 hasta los 13 años y se divide en dos ciclos de cursos años cada uno. Tiene carácter obligatorio.
Media. Tiene una duración de cuatro cursos (de los 14 a los 17 años) y también es obligatoria. Se puede optar por la vía científico-humanista que está orientada al acceso a la universidad o la técnico-profesional que prepara a los estudiantes para el mercado laboral.
Superior. Es de carácter opcional y de pago y se imparte en institutos profesionales, centros de formación técnica y universidades. La formación universitaria se divide en bachilleres, licenciaturas, magísteres y doctorados.

http://www.universia.es/estudiar-extranjero/chile/sistema-ed...

'4º Medio B' seems to refer to group B of the fourth year of the intermediate stage.

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-12-08 17:47:15 GMT)
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Though according to Wikipedia, 'medio' is just another name for secondary education.

En el caso de Chile, la educación secundaria es obligatoria. Se denomina enseñanza media y se compone de cuatro niveles, a los que se llaman cursos o años. Comienza con primero medio (13-14 años) y finaliza con cuarto medio (17-18 años).

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educación_secundaria#Chile

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Coincido  Charles Davis: Yes, that's what it refers to
18 horas
  -> At first I didn't realise that it was just another way of referring to secondary education. Thank you, Charles :-)
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