interesante alforje en el coro.

English translation: interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling

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Spanish term or phrase: interesante alforje en el coro.
English translation:interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling
Entered by: Thomas Fryer

21:11 Feb 10, 2008
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Architecture / Churches
Spanish term or phrase: interesante alforje en el coro.
The text is a brief description of a Spanish church. The full sentence here reads "Las bóvedas en general, de terceletes e interesante alforje en el coro". I cannot for life of me determine what the "alforje" is. It does not appear in any of the technical dictionaries I have or on www.rae.es.
Thomas Fryer
Local time: 16:29
interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling
Explanation:
It took me a while to find this beasty. I am more inclined to believe alforje is a typo for ALFARJE which refers to the underside of the choir box.
El Diccionario Espasa-Calpe dice (y lo confirma la RAE):
Alfarje m. Techumbre plana con maderas labradas, ornamentadas y entrelazadas artísticamente, que puede estar dispuesta para servir de suelo a la planta superior: ejemplo > alfarje de nogal.



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Note added at 14 hrs (2008-02-11 11:41:02 GMT)
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Of course the choir box ornamental ceiling (artesanado) is the view from below the choir i.e. from the church floor level, as described by the author of the article. Artesanado is the description given by Espasa, RAE and Maria Moliner.
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trnet
Local time: 15:29
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Many thanks for an extremely helpful answer.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3interesting decoration in the choir
Vittorio Ferretti
4 +1interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling
trnet
3 +1Interesting woodwork in the choir ceiling
Gad Kohenov


Discussion entries: 6





  

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interesting decoration in the choir


Explanation:
Larousse: alforja 3. Amér. adorno, colgajo.
"Americanisms" sometiimes stem from old Castilian ...

Vittorio Ferretti
Local time: 16:29
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks for your help.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Edward Tully
1 hr

agree  Noni Gilbert Riley: It solves the problem!
11 hrs

neutral  trnet: As you know now, this is not some ornament hanging from anywhere in the choir related etymologically to "alforja".
14 hrs

agree  Cecilia Della Croce
19 hrs
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Interesting woodwork in the choir ceiling


Explanation:
This way you don't complicate things too much.

Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 17:29
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in HebrewHebrew
PRO pts in category: 31
Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks for your help.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Graham
1 day 36 mins
  -> Thanks a lot!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling


Explanation:
It took me a while to find this beasty. I am more inclined to believe alforje is a typo for ALFARJE which refers to the underside of the choir box.
El Diccionario Espasa-Calpe dice (y lo confirma la RAE):
Alfarje m. Techumbre plana con maderas labradas, ornamentadas y entrelazadas artísticamente, que puede estar dispuesta para servir de suelo a la planta superior: ejemplo > alfarje de nogal.



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Note added at 14 hrs (2008-02-11 11:41:02 GMT)
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Of course the choir box ornamental ceiling (artesanado) is the view from below the choir i.e. from the church floor level, as described by the author of the article. Artesanado is the description given by Espasa, RAE and Maria Moliner.

trnet
Local time: 15:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Many thanks for an extremely helpful answer.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Noni Gilbert Riley: Slightly confused - is the choir box up above? But seems v convincing.
9 hrs
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