prognano lice

English translation: displaced person

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Serbian term or phrase:prognano lice
English translation:displaced person
Entered by: Veronica Prpic Uhing

13:39 Jun 22, 2006
Serbian to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical: Health Care / Uputnica
Serbian term or phrase: prognano lice
To je stavljeno kao odgovor na jedno od pitanja u uputnici za laboratorijske testove:

Nadležan organ za naplatu, Opština i FZO: prognano lice
Veronica Prpic Uhing
United States
Local time: 08:53
displaced person
Explanation:
...?
http://www.oscebih.org/overview/gfap/eng/annex7.asp

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Google skoro svuda daje:

Internally displaced persons
http://www.ceeol.com/aspx/issuedetails.aspx?issueid=554d1b2b...
Selected response from:

Sherefedin MUSTAFA
Netherlands
Local time: 14:53
Grading comment
Hvala!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5exiled person
Bogdan Petrovic
3 +5displaced person
Sherefedin MUSTAFA
4 +3refugee
Davorka Grgic
4 +1person in exile
Goran Tasic
4 +1deported person
BUZOV


Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
refugee


Explanation:

...hrv. prognanik

http://www.unhcr.ch/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home

Who is a refugee?

According to the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, a refugee is a person who "owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country."

Davorka Grgic
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Native in CroatianCroatian, Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  V&M Stanković: mada je prognano lice = exile (tj. direktno prognan, oteran u drugu državu - nekim aktom ili postupkom vlasti, znači bez ikakve mogućnosti izbora), ipak se "refugee" (striktno značenje: izbeglica) često koristi i u tom smislu
48 mins
  -> Hvala, Vesna. To je pojam koji se univerzalno koristio u UN / NATO izvijescima s terena u ex-YU (radila sam za njih, na zalost). Mislim da potpuno odgovara kontekstu ovdje.

neutral  Radica Schenck: "refugee status" ne podrazumeva se samo po sebi, prognano ili raseljeno lice, lice u egzilu itd. mogu POTRAZITI DA DOBIJU STATUS IZBEGLICE, zar ne? hvala na odgovoru, po mom skromnom shvacanju genericki pojam je "DP", zbog toga pitam..pozdrav! :)
7 hrs
  -> Mislim da se previse komplicira. Ovdje se znacenja pojmova preklapaju i razlikuju od jedne do druge definicje. Za mene je "refugee" genericki pojam za sve one koji su pobjegli od kuce ybog ugrozenosti i u bilo kojem pravcu.

agree  Iva Pajvancic
1 day 2 hrs

agree  zoe1
1 day 20 hrs

disagree  Kornelija Karalic: Ja sam bila izbjeglica u proslom ratu ali me niko nije otjerao sama sam otisla. Prognanike otjeraju na silu. Mislim da je u tome razlika. Exiled person.
1 day 22 hrs

agree  maid: jel mi moze teko objasnit jasnu razliku izmedju izbjeglica i raseljenih lica...hvala unaprijed
1232 days
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
displaced person


Explanation:
...?
http://www.oscebih.org/overview/gfap/eng/annex7.asp

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Note added at 9 mins (2006-06-22 13:49:48 GMT)
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Google skoro svuda daje:

Internally displaced persons
http://www.ceeol.com/aspx/issuedetails.aspx?issueid=554d1b2b...


Sherefedin MUSTAFA
Netherlands
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Native in AlbanianAlbanian, Native in MacedonianMacedonian
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Hvala!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Goran Tasic: Zdravo Sherefedine, mislim da to ipak znaci raseljeno lice.
8 mins
  -> Hvala Gorane. Ako je srpski tekst onda se verovatno ovaj pojam razlikuje od "izbeglice"... Ako je hrvatski onda je bukvalno: refugee = izbeglica.

agree  A.Đapo: refugee-izbjeglica prognanik-displaced person
14 mins
  -> Zahvaljujem Amra.

disagree  Bogdan Petrovic: izbeglica nije isto sto i raseljeno lice. Cesto se kaze "izbeglice i raseljena lica"
29 mins
  -> Izvini Bogdane ali ne sećam se da sam negde tvrdio da je to isto. Naprotiv.

neutral  V&M Stanković: to bi bilo tzv. "raseljeno lice" - znači samo u okviru jedne države (po opštoj terminologiji UNHCR-a)
58 mins
  -> u pravu ste.

agree  drhukic (X): U Bosni je kao vrijedio princip ako ste prognani untar maticne drzave da ste displaced person.
4 hrs
  -> Hvala.

agree  Radica Schenck: 100% ste u pravu sa "displaced person" i prema terminologiji UNHCR-a isto tako :) njihov recnik: http://www.refugeethesaurus.org/
7 hrs
  -> Hvala.

agree  gordana djordjevic
17 hrs
  -> Hvala.

agree  Kornelija Karalic: Može i ovo i Exiled person ili samo exile.
1 day 22 hrs
  -> Zahvaljujem.
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
person in exile


Explanation:
Lice koje je silom naterano da ode od svog mesta boravka.
Refugee gore je izbeglica, Internally displaced persons znaci interno raseljena lica (lica koja nisu otisla van svoje maticne drzave).

Goran Tasic
Serbia
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  BUZOV
7 mins

agree  Sherefedin MUSTAFA
1 hr

agree  Bogdan Petrovic: pardon, hteo sam da kazem da nije isto prognanik i raseljeno lice... Nisam ni mislio da smatrate da je to isto.
1 hr

disagree  Radica Schenck: prvo je lice prognano, pa nakon sto su ga prognali, je ili raseljeno ili u egzilu (koji god bio razlog: politicki, socijalni, itd.).
6 hrs

disagree  Kornelija Karalic: Ovo bi bilo ''osoba u progonstvu''. Samo Exile.
1 day 22 hrs
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34 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
deported person


Explanation:
[PDF] MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE GENERAL PEOPLE’S COMMITTEE ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
If the deported person is arrested or detained, he will be informed ... The deported person will have unimpeded access to the monitoring body unless they ...
www.icj.org/IMG/pdf/05.10.09_DWA_M_Libya_FINAL.pdf -

Requests for search of documents on deportation and Jews registername and surname of deported person.
date and place of birth ... relationship to deported person, or verified authorisation in the case of representing such ...
www.civil.gov.sk/SNARCHIV/uk_search_on_deportation.htm

REPATRIATION AND ADAPTATION OF GEORGIA’S MESKHETIANS:Obscurity of the ethnic background of deported people forms a fertile ... who considers that deported person should be able to choose any place to live ...
www.policy.hu/sumbadze/osiipf.html -



BUZOV
Croatia
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Native in CroatianCroatian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kornelija Karalic: Moze i ovako ali i Exile.
1 day 22 hrs
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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
exiled person


Explanation:
da budem iskren, ne bih znao koja je razlika izmedju izbeglica i prognanika, ali evo kako ih zovu UN...

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Pardon, evo cele recenice:

In a statement read out by its President, Peter Burleigh (United States), the Council called on Croatia to address the perceived lack of security, which is contributing to the Serb departures, and to remedy a number of problems which are preventing the full implementation of the "Programme for the Return and Accommodation of Displaced Persons, Refugees and Exiled Persons".

Example sentence(s):
  • In a statement read out by its President, Peter Burleigh (United States), the Council called on Croatia to address the perceived lack of security, which is contributing to the Serb departures, and to remedy a number of problems which are preventing the fu

    Reference: http://www.un.org/news/Press/docs/1998/19981106.sc6593.html
Bogdan Petrovic
Serbia
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Serbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  V&M Stanković: tako je, a dovoljno je i samo "exile"
17 mins
  -> hvala!

agree  Goran Tasic: Kolega, razlika je sto je izbeglica sam otisao pod vihorom rata a prognanik je proteran
21 mins
  -> Hvala. Pa da, ali veliki broj izbeglica je otisao zato sto ih je nekao prognao, direktno ili indirektno. Jasno mi je sta zelite da kazete, ali da ne ulazimo u sitna crevca. Ja mislim da generalno reci refugee ili exiled persons nije pogresno

agree  Sherefedin MUSTAFA: Ovo je najbolje resenje. Sada mi je jasno na koja prognana lica se misli.
59 mins
  -> Hvala!

agree  zoe1: Pa slazem se sa vama ali mislim da exile ima jednu nijansu "dobrovoljnog" odlaska
2 hrs
  -> hvala, imate potpuno pravo

disagree  Radica Schenck: prvo je lice prognano, pa nakon sto su ga prognali, je ili raseljeno ili u egzilu (koji god bio razlog: politicki, socijalni, itd.).
6 hrs

agree  Jelena Bubalo
6 hrs

agree  Kornelija Karalic: Izbjeglica moze i sama pobjeci a prognanik je na silu otjeran iz svog doma. Kao sto kaze Vesna dovoljno je samo exile.
1 day 21 hrs
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