io come unico articolo di fede

English translation: the "Ego as the only article of faith"

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Italian term or phrase:io come unico articolo di fede
English translation:the "Ego as the only article of faith"
Entered by: simon tanner

08:30 Jan 10, 2009
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy / art theory
Italian term or phrase: io come unico articolo di fede
As you can see from the context, this is presented as a quote. Does anyone have any idea of the 'official' translation... I seem to have mislaid my complete works of Nietzsche ;-)

Context:
Col concetto di “incondizionamento esistenziale” – altri come Jean-Cristophe Ammann si occupano p.es. di “ossessione” – arriviamo subito all’immagine classica del pittore come eroe con l’“Io come unico articolo di fede” (Nietzsche), cosa che è ritenuta “autentica”.

Thanks everyone!
simon tanner
Italy
Local time: 16:35
the "Ego as the only article of faith"
Explanation:
that sounds like Nietsche!!
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blattanzi
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Local time: 16:35
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thanks. convincing!
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5 +1the "Ego as the only article of faith"
blattanzi
3 +2I [...] our oldest article of faith
Grey Drane (X)
Summary of reference entries provided
/EGO CONCEPT - OUR OLDEST ARTICLE OF FAITH/
ARS54

  

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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
I [...] our oldest article of faith


Explanation:
This looks like a likely candidate:

"We have borrowed the concept of unity from our 'I' concept -- our oldest article of faith."

See:

http://books.google.com/books?id=vuv_Be1kKKAC&pg=PA198&lpg=P...


    Reference: http://books.google.com/books?id=vuv_Be1kKKAC&pg=PA198&lpg=P...
Grey Drane (X)
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Local time: 10:35
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Asker: thanks for your help, Grey


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  James (Jim) Davis: Hi Grey, Happy New Year. Seems to me that this translation would be correcting the misquoted in the Italian source text here, but why not?
41 mins
  -> HNY 2U2! (gotta save those keystrokes... oops! Damn!) Anyway, yeah, it wouldn't be the first time I've come across misquoted translations. Ciao! And thx!

agree  Umberto Cassano
8 hrs
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the "Ego as the only article of faith"


Explanation:
that sounds like Nietsche!!

blattanzi
Italy
Local time: 16:35
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Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
thanks. convincing!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ARS54: ...sì, anche "the only article..." (cfr. http://www.blackwell-synergy.com, o http://www.archive.org. REPLY: thanks to you too, Barbie!
4 hrs
  -> Grazie per la reference, ottima!!
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Reference comments


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Reference: /EGO CONCEPT - OUR OLDEST ARTICLE OF FAITH/

Reference information:
"There are, for Nietzsche, no “things,” no existences that stand apart in any way from all of existence. All exist only in the web-like structure of Verhängnis and exist in no other sense. Our conception of individual existences is a function of our error regarding the sense of unity. “We need ‘unities’ in order to be able to reckon: that does not mean we must suppose that such unities exist. We have borrowed the concept of unity FROM OUR ‘EGO’CONCEPT —OUR OLDEST ARTICLE OF FAITH. If we did not hold ourselves to be unities, we would never have formed the concept ‘thing.’"

"This ego, "our oldest article of faith" (WP 635), is, in Nietzsche's view, another word for the subject. As he says of the subject that it is "not ..."

"The consequence of these examples is simple: the presupposition of reason leads us into the realm of "crude fetishism." As Nietzsche states in Twilight of the Idols,

Everywhere it sees a doer and doing; it believes in will as the cause; it believes in

the ego, in the ego as being, in the ego as substance, and it projects this faith in the

ego-substance upon all things —only thereby does it first create the concept of

‘thing.’ Everywhere ‘being’ is projected by thought, pushed underneath, as the

cause; the concept of being follows, and is the derivative of, the concept of ego

("Reason in Philosophy" 5)".

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Note added at 14 ore (2009-01-10 23:06:17 GMT)
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"Pensiamo appunto alla morte di Dio o dell’Io sono. Nessuno probabilmente sosterrebbe,dopo essere diventato cieco, che quanto prima vedeva è morto o ha cessato di esistere,mentre l’uomo moderno sostiene, dopo essere diventato un ego (dopo aver cioè chiuso gliocchi dello spirito e aperto quelli del corpo), che quel Dio o quell’Io sono che prima vedevaè morto o ha cessato di esistere."
(http://www.ospi.it)

"Articolo di fede: [...]: ...Nietzsche rimprovera il cristianesimo di ritenere l’articolo di fede tanto importante da..."

http://www.ueci.it/

Example sentence(s):
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  • http://www.springerlink.com

    Reference: http://www.nietzschecircle.com/essayArchive9.html
    Reference: http://www.books.google.it
ARS54
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