a boscherecce

English translation: decorated with 'boschereccia' or 'woodland' style paintings (frequently using trompe l'oeuil

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Italian term or phrase:a boscherecce
English translation:decorated with 'boschereccia' or 'woodland' style paintings (frequently using trompe l'oeuil
Entered by: Lorraine Buckley (X)

22:36 Jul 4, 2012
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Architecture / wall-painting style fashionable in the early 1800s
Italian term or phrase: a boscherecce
'nelle campiture rimanenti sono state compiute altre pitture murali con particolari di scene paesaggistiche *“a boscherecce" *'

I have found that "a boscherecce" is "la moda dei primi decenni dell’Ottocento nel far decorare stanze “a boscherecce”, finte architetture, rovine e prospettive che aprono gli ambienti su spazi campestri."

I understand what it is but have no idea of the English equivalent..... just generic trompe l'oeuil, perhaps, or a specialised term like 'trompe l'oeuil architecture? Or 'country landscape trompe l'oeuil? Or a completely different term?
I find the Italian phrase is never used in English texts.

Many thanks for any help here
Lorraine Buckley (X)
Italy
Local time: 08:33
decorated in 'boschereccia' or 'woodland' style
Explanation:
Thus here,

'Eseguiti da Gaspare Bargioni e Niccolò Contestabili, [i trompe l'œil] rappresentano la moda dei primi decenni
dell’Ottocento nel far decorare stanze “a boscherecce”, finte
architetture, rovine e prospettive che aprono gli ambienti su
spazi campestri.

The frescoes, by Gaspare Bargioni and Niccolò Contestabili, were the last word in fashion in the first few decades of the 19th c., when rooms were decorated in “boschereccia” or “woodland” style with illusory architecture, ruins, follies and false perspective leading the eye out of the room into make-believe orchards and fields.'
(www.palazzostrozzi.org/allegati/allegati/06_passaporto_inga... page 81)

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Here are the Italian and English excerpts from a site describing Palazzo Sanguinetti in Bologna:
'Al piano nobile, "...se si segue il percorso museale - scrive nella guida del museo Paola Foschi - la stanza alla boschereccia (sala 1), che era utilizzata come sala da pranzo ed era detta Sala del Convito, è prodotto della fantasia di Vincenzo Martinelli (1737-1807), che immagina paesaggi ricchi di verzura e di architetture classiche in lontananza; queste si fanno vicine a circondare l'astante nel gradino illusorio che sorregge erme e statue di Bacco e Cerere, opera del giovane Pelagio Palagi (1777-1860).'
(http://www.museomusicabologna.it/palazzosanguinetti.htm)

'On the first floor, "...if you follow the designated course through the museum" - Paola Foschi writes in the museum guide - the Woodland Room (Room 1), which was used as a dining room and called the Banquet Room, is a product of Vincenzo Martinelli's (1737-1807) imagination: he illustrates landscapes rich with greenery and classical architecture in the distance. These classical elements surround the onlooker in the illusive step that supports hermas and statues of Bacchus and Ceres, works by the young Pelagio Palagi (1777-1860).'
(http://www.museomusicabologna.it/palazzosanguinetti_eng.htm)

Here is how 'boschereccio' is used in another context, but still translated as 'woodland'
The Giardino Boschereccio (the woodland garden)
It is located opposite the Casino Nobile and it was designed by Flaminio Ponzio in 1606. Initially the project included 23 squared sectors containing different types of trees, limited by tall and shaped hedges adorned with precious sculptures, such as the Fontane Oscure (Darks Fountains) and the Grotta dei Vini (Cave of Wines). Today this division has almost completely disappeared and the vegetation has been supplemented with new species, including evergreens.'
(http://arrangeyourvacation.com/travel-blog/romes-villa-borgh...


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Hi Lorraine!
Where does the 'Native American rustic style they claim to have invented' come from? Who's 'they'?
There is no doubt about this term being Italian and derived (yes, you guessed it) from 'bosco' [re. boscheréccio (ant. boscaréccio) agg. [der. di bosco] (pl. f. -ce). – Di bosco, che cresce o vive nei boschi - Treccani online].
Am I missing something here?

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I see what you mean, now.
That's why I think you should keep the Italian combined with the English. That would avoid any misunderstandings.
Ciao!

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Thank you, Lorraine!
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Barbara Carrara
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Local time: 08:33
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My final product was a bit of everyone's contribution. Thank you all so much. In the end I opted to leave the Italian, with an explanation. as it matches stylistically with other parts of the chapter.
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Summary of answers provided
3natural scenes
Raffaella Panigada
3wooded/sylvan scenes
Ivana Giuliani
3pastoral trompe l'oeil
Neptunia
3decorated in 'boschereccia' or 'woodland' style
Barbara Carrara


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natural scenes


Explanation:
Hi Lorraine, I think they simply refer to natural/bucolic (maybe not "pastoral" enough for this)/sylvan scenes. I'm not sure I'd go as far as to call them trompe l'oeil (see examples below, scroll down to see the different "a boscherecce" paintings of this villa), you could paraphrase the definition you found saying something like: "wall paintings depicting natural scenes that open up the architecture" (I'm sure you'll find a better way, I'm still waking up!). HTH

https://www.google.com/search?hl=it&lr=lang_it&client=firefo...

Raffaella Panigada
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for the morning dose of La Rotonda - one of my favourite villas! I found those paintings described elsewhere as "romantic paintings" - perhaps rather too generic......

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wooded/sylvan scenes


Explanation:
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or
illusory landscapes

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boschereccia= natural/wooded scenes that are realistic enough to fool/trick the eye

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natural/wooded scenes providing/creating a tromp l'oeil effect

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Caratteristiche del palazzo sono le Boscherecce, scene naturali che avvolgono lo spettatore attraverso un paesaggio ricreato e mitologico.[7]
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Arese_Borromeo

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Elemento di pregio è la suggestiva loggia passante al piano terra, caratterizzata dagli affreschi alla boschereccia, attribuiti al Basoli, dove il ricorso alla tecnica del trompe l'oeil apre le pareti su paesaggi illusori, che fanno da cornice ideale per la celebrazione dei matrimoni di rito civile, insieme al giardino romantico esterno in cui domina un secolare Cedrus deodara.

http://www.bolognawelcome.com/guida-turistica/indice-complet...

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d.repubblica.it/dmemory/2004/06/19/attualita/.../048mit40648.html19 giu 2004 – ... dove Gioacchino Rossini soggiornò, il percorso espositivo parte dalla "boschereccia", sala affrescata con un effetto trompe-l'oeil di giardino.

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www.museomusicabologna.it/palazzosanguinet... - Traduci questa pagina
Sala 1 (boschereccia) ... On the ground floor, the landscape fresco, a magnificent trompe-l'oeil perspective, is by Luigi Busatti, while the illusive architecture is ...

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http://www.bologna.chiesacattolica.it/bo7/2003/2003_03_09/te...

Si realizzavano la «boschereccia», paesaggi silvestri, e la «deliziosa», il giardino ordinato. Abbiamo trovato una stanza circolare ornata da Basoli con una «deliziosa», nel torresotto di via Castiglione».

Ivana Giuliani
Italy
Local time: 08:33
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
Notes to answerer
Asker: thanks for these useful references, reconfirming my impression that 'boscarecce' have to have an element of trompe-l'oeuil....... will keep pondering it through!

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pastoral trompe l'oeil


Explanation:
This is just another variation on what you were already thinking. I agree with you that the perspective and window-effect of the trompe l'oeil are important parts of the concept.

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decorated in 'boschereccia' or 'woodland' style


Explanation:
Thus here,

'Eseguiti da Gaspare Bargioni e Niccolò Contestabili, [i trompe l'œil] rappresentano la moda dei primi decenni
dell’Ottocento nel far decorare stanze “a boscherecce”, finte
architetture, rovine e prospettive che aprono gli ambienti su
spazi campestri.

The frescoes, by Gaspare Bargioni and Niccolò Contestabili, were the last word in fashion in the first few decades of the 19th c., when rooms were decorated in “boschereccia” or “woodland” style with illusory architecture, ruins, follies and false perspective leading the eye out of the room into make-believe orchards and fields.'
(www.palazzostrozzi.org/allegati/allegati/06_passaporto_inga... page 81)

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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-07-05 07:08:57 GMT)
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Here are the Italian and English excerpts from a site describing Palazzo Sanguinetti in Bologna:
'Al piano nobile, "...se si segue il percorso museale - scrive nella guida del museo Paola Foschi - la stanza alla boschereccia (sala 1), che era utilizzata come sala da pranzo ed era detta Sala del Convito, è prodotto della fantasia di Vincenzo Martinelli (1737-1807), che immagina paesaggi ricchi di verzura e di architetture classiche in lontananza; queste si fanno vicine a circondare l'astante nel gradino illusorio che sorregge erme e statue di Bacco e Cerere, opera del giovane Pelagio Palagi (1777-1860).'
(http://www.museomusicabologna.it/palazzosanguinetti.htm)

'On the first floor, "...if you follow the designated course through the museum" - Paola Foschi writes in the museum guide - the Woodland Room (Room 1), which was used as a dining room and called the Banquet Room, is a product of Vincenzo Martinelli's (1737-1807) imagination: he illustrates landscapes rich with greenery and classical architecture in the distance. These classical elements surround the onlooker in the illusive step that supports hermas and statues of Bacchus and Ceres, works by the young Pelagio Palagi (1777-1860).'
(http://www.museomusicabologna.it/palazzosanguinetti_eng.htm)

Here is how 'boschereccio' is used in another context, but still translated as 'woodland'
The Giardino Boschereccio (the woodland garden)
It is located opposite the Casino Nobile and it was designed by Flaminio Ponzio in 1606. Initially the project included 23 squared sectors containing different types of trees, limited by tall and shaped hedges adorned with precious sculptures, such as the Fontane Oscure (Darks Fountains) and the Grotta dei Vini (Cave of Wines). Today this division has almost completely disappeared and the vegetation has been supplemented with new species, including evergreens.'
(http://arrangeyourvacation.com/travel-blog/romes-villa-borgh...


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Hi Lorraine!
Where does the 'Native American rustic style they claim to have invented' come from? Who's 'they'?
There is no doubt about this term being Italian and derived (yes, you guessed it) from 'bosco' [re. boscheréccio (ant. boscaréccio) agg. [der. di bosco] (pl. f. -ce). – Di bosco, che cresce o vive nei boschi - Treccani online].
Am I missing something here?

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I see what you mean, now.
That's why I think you should keep the Italian combined with the English. That would avoid any misunderstandings.
Ciao!

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Thank you, Lorraine!


Barbara Carrara
Italy
Local time: 08:33
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Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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My final product was a bit of everyone's contribution. Thank you all so much. In the end I opted to leave the Italian, with an explanation. as it matches stylistically with other parts of the chapter.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for interesting links.... I'm still not convinced 100% by 'woodland'... online it seems to refer almost exclusively to a Native American rustic style they claim to have invented or to Italian translations - still, perhaps I'll have to stick with the Italian followed by this translation, as you say. Or go for a generic 'natural/woodland/landscape scenes'.....Boh, ci penso su un po'. Thanks meanwhile

Asker: Barbs: I wasn't referring to 'a boscherecce', this is clearly Italian and of the etymology you specify: I meant 'woodland' style. If you Google "woodland style painting" or similar, you will see all sorts of 'naif' Canadian Indian art which is totally off topic!

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