"fare spazio pubblico"

English translation: Making/ Creating Public Space

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Italian term or phrase:	"fare spazio pubblico"
English translation:	Making/ Creating Public Space
Entered by:	James (Jim) Davis

17:01 Jul 11, 2007

Italian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Architecture / Planning and community involvement

Italian term or phrase: "fare spazio pubblico"

"Gli argomenti e le questioni affrontate sono molteplici e propongono un ventaglio di temi, possibilità e modalità di azione, strumenti e iniziative, che vanno a comporre un repertorio idee per “fare spazio pubblico”, promuovere la qualità della vita e il benessere nei quartieri, che viene proposta in questa sezione."

"Fare Spazio Pubblico" is also in the title and "spazio pubblico" is in the title and all over the text.
Sono urbanisti che seguono metodi partecipativi.

To give an idea of what I'm looking for:
I translated for academic readers. Some native English speaking readers in the project complained that they wanted something more "user friendly" for a wider audience. Things like Foucault's "responsibilisation", didn't exactly go down a bomb, told me the word didn't exist.

James (Jim) Davis KudoZ activity Questions: 207 (none open) (3 without valid answers) (21 closed without grading) Answers: 8928 Seychelles
Local time: 02:13

Making/ Creating Public Space

Explanation:
Here is a couple of articles that can help in understanding what it means:

http://www.pps.org/
http://www.pps.org/info/aboutpps/about
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/aw/rr/rbrownfields/greenspace/gs-01-17...

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Note added at 16 mins (2007-07-11 17:17:52 GMT)
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sorry for the typo: Here are* a couple... I started with one link and then found more...

Selected response from:

TrueBaller
Local time: 18:13

Grading comment

Thank you very much Mimoza and everybody else. My reader will just have to accept it.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +1

Making/ Creating Public Space

TrueBaller

3 +2

making space(s) public

Giles Watson

creation of an area for the public

Peter Cox

3 -1

public domain

Shera Lyn Parpia

Discussion entries: 4

Answers

15 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Making/ Creating Public Space

TrueBaller
Local time: 18:13
Native speaker of:

Albanian
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thank you very much Mimoza and everybody else. My reader will just have to accept it.

Notes to answerer

Asker: I have a fair idea of what it means Mimoza, but the ammo is useful. That is exactly how I translated it first time round. The reader's comment was "What does this term mean?".

Asker: Yes that's what I thought Ivana, public space is public space. I did wonder if my mind had flipped with all the financial reports, or maybe we've both flipped :).

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Ivana UK: "the creation of public space" - I can't see how else you could possibly translate - public space is public space - that's the term ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_space and http://www.cleanersafergreener.gov.uk/en/1/pslcreationofpubl...

1 hr

-> Exactly. Thanks Ivana!

agree

Jim Tucker (X): yes - would use "create" rather than "make" - trans. should tell reader that "public space" is standard terminolgy. I do lots of architecture texts and I don't know how many thousands of times I've used it.

15 hrs

-> Thank, Jim. Much appreciated.

disagree

Ashish (HIN,ENG) Nadia (ITA): i feel that the emphasis as brought out by the context is naunced and is not conveyed conceptually in this particular interpretation

628 days

59 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

public domain

Explanation:
ideas in the public domain
sharing in the public domain
You might take this and adapt it to each situation. Just an idea.

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-11 18:04:12 GMT)
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"open space" is another concept you might want to explore. I am aware it refers to a specific methodology of sharing and discussion, but the term and the concept might give you some ideas
for info see: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-07-11 19:03:53 GMT)
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Basically, this was to introduce some "lateral thinking" to the concept.
Information and knowledge in many other fields can also be in the public domain.

see

Electrochemistry public domain information on the Internet: bibliographies, software, physical/chemical data.
electrochem.cwru.edu/estir/pdi.htm -

Public Domain Knowledge Bank [email protected]. The purpose of this web site is to support the efforts of the members of the PDKB mailing list. ...
robustai.net/pdkb/index.htm

Placing our knowledge into the public domain turns it into a freely available resource for commercial utilization. Thus, it also creates the pre-condition ...
www.ohchr.org/english/issues/indigenous/docs/wgip23/crp3.do...

Shera Lyn Parpia
Italy
Local time: 00:13
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 144

Notes to answerer

Asker: I did consider public domain, but as mimoza says, its a copyright patent term, while open space technology is a communication technique.

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

making space(s) public

Explanation:
Hi Jim,

What about maintaining the order of the Italian notions, which keeps the end-focus on "public" while at the same time making the English a little less arty-farty?

FWIW

Giles

Giles Watson
Italy
Local time: 00:13
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24

Notes to answerer

Asker: Interesting idea, but might confuse the issue.

14 hrs confidence:

creation of an area for the public

Explanation:
another idea

Peter Cox
Italy
Local time: 00:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks for the suggestion, Peter. It's a sweet and simple answer to "what does it mean?"

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