közvetlen irányítása és fenntartói irányítása

English translation: under the direct control and operated by

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Hungarian term or phrase:közvetlen irányítása és fenntartói irányítása
English translation:under the direct control and operated by
Entered by: Douglas Arnott

08:37 Jun 25, 2012
Hungarian to English translations [PRO]
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Hungarian term or phrase: közvetlen irányítása és fenntartói irányítása
Az utasítás hatálya a Honvédelmi Minisztériumra, a honvédelmi miniszter alárendeltségébe, közvetlen irányítása és fenntartói irányítása alatt álló szervezetekre, továbbá a Magyar Honvédség katonai szervezeteire (a továbbiakban együtt: katonai szervezetek) terjed ki.

This is taken from a text on the Code of Ethics for the Hungarian army. Could someone explain the difference here between közvetlen and fenntartói?
Douglas Arnott
Local time: 06:54
controlled and operated by
Explanation:
Felteszem külön válaszként is a javaslatomat, az utókor számára.
Tribal colleges and universities are a category of higher education, minority-serving institutions in the United States. (In Canada, the first tribal college was established in 1995.) The educational institutions are distinguished by being controlled and operated by Native American tribes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_colleges_and_universitie...
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Annamaria Amik
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4 +1direct control, maintainer
János Untener
5direct control and operational maintence
JANOS SAMU
4controlled and operated by
Annamaria Amik


  

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direct control, maintainer


Explanation:
tehát angolul az a rész
organisations under the direct control or maintained by the Minister of Defense

szerintem a különbség egyszerű, az első esetben közvetlenül irányítja, a második esetben a fenntartásról is gondoskodik.

http://www.complex.hu/kzldat/t1100204.htm/t1100204_13.htm

Az oktatási törvényből
73. § (1) A fenntartói irányítást az gyakorolja, aki az e törvényben meghatározottaknak megfelelően a felsőoktatási intézmény működéséhez szükséges feltételekről gondoskodik. A fenntartói irányítás jogosítványai és kötelezettségei - ha e törvény másképp nem rendelkezik - azonosak, függetlenül attól, hogy ki gyakorolja azt.

itt a maintain szóval fejezték ki
http://www.ecoi.net/file_upload/432_1212049263_act-cxxxix-20...

János Untener
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agree  Annamaria Amik: A fenntartóra lehet az operated by kifejezést is használni.
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direct control and operational maintence


Explanation:
In this case restructuring the sentence will help. This is what I recommend in American English and if you want you can convert it to British English:
This policy (or whatever you use for utasítás) applies to the Department of Defense, all organizations reporting directly to, being under the direct control of, and operationally maintained by the Secretary of Defense, furthermore to the military organizations of the Hungarian Armed Forces (hereafter military organizations).

JANOS SAMU
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controlled and operated by


Explanation:
Felteszem külön válaszként is a javaslatomat, az utókor számára.
Tribal colleges and universities are a category of higher education, minority-serving institutions in the United States. (In Canada, the first tribal college was established in 1995.) The educational institutions are distinguished by being controlled and operated by Native American tribes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_colleges_and_universitie...

Annamaria Amik
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