Strichfassung

English translation: dramaturgical cut script

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German term or phrase:Strichfassung
English translation:dramaturgical cut script
Entered by: Susanne Higer

13:22 Mar 16, 2013
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / Theatre
German term or phrase: Strichfassung
A "Strichfassung" in German refers to (a copy of) a play that has been shortened by the (theatrical) director. The German "Strich" refers to the actual stroke which marks/crosses out the passage to be omitted in the play. The passages are not removed but remain on the paper and may be included again (i.e., the strokes removed or "aufgehoben" in German) at a later stage. I would very much appreciate if someone could provide the appropriate English term. Thank you so much in advance!
Susanne Higer
Austria
Local time: 07:38
dramaturgical cut script
Explanation:
Yale Drama School, the premier university acting school in the US, calls this "dramaturgical cut script", as cutting the script is one of the functions of the dramaturg, the "worker of the text". However, this doesn't Google well, but that might be because it is ultra-specialized, and you don't specify the target language or culture. That's why only "medium confidence".
"The collection consists of production scripts from the Yale School of Drama, including dramaturgical cut scripts, early scripts, promptbooks, production books, and regular scripts."
From: http://drs.library.yale.edu:8083/HLTransformer/HLTransServle...
The Univ. of Newcastle (Australia) reference below merely mentions "revised scripts", but that may not be specific enough.
I actually was a dramaturg many years ago, but mostly worked as an assistant dramaturg in Germany, so I'm not 100% sure on how often this term really used in the English-speaking theater.

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Sorry, left out an "is" in the last sentence: "...this term is really used..."

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Also referenced by andres-larsen below, but I found it independently - a specific mention of *Strichfassung" in a list of tasks performed by the Dramaturg: "Bearbeitung und Übersetzung von Dramentexten; im Musiktheater Einrichtung von Opern oder Libretti (Strichfassung = Festlegung von Kürzungen)"
from Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dramaturgie
The English "Dramaturgy" page in Wikipedia is not quite as detailed, but might also be of some use.
Translation is also a function of the dramaturg, which was part of my job.
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Woodstock (X)
Germany
Local time: 07:38
Grading comment
Thank you woodstock for your to-the-point suggestion! Thank you everyone else for your very valuable contributions!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2dramaturgical cut script
Woodstock (X)
3 +1(script) cut(s) version
freekfluweel
2abbreviated version
gangels (X)
Summary of reference entries provided
(dramaturgy) line version = definition of shortening / to cut a play
andres-larsen

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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
dramaturgical cut script


Explanation:
Yale Drama School, the premier university acting school in the US, calls this "dramaturgical cut script", as cutting the script is one of the functions of the dramaturg, the "worker of the text". However, this doesn't Google well, but that might be because it is ultra-specialized, and you don't specify the target language or culture. That's why only "medium confidence".
"The collection consists of production scripts from the Yale School of Drama, including dramaturgical cut scripts, early scripts, promptbooks, production books, and regular scripts."
From: http://drs.library.yale.edu:8083/HLTransformer/HLTransServle...
The Univ. of Newcastle (Australia) reference below merely mentions "revised scripts", but that may not be specific enough.
I actually was a dramaturg many years ago, but mostly worked as an assistant dramaturg in Germany, so I'm not 100% sure on how often this term really used in the English-speaking theater.

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Note added at 58 mins (2013-03-16 14:20:52 GMT)
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Sorry, left out an "is" in the last sentence: "...this term is really used..."

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-03-16 14:43:37 GMT)
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Also referenced by andres-larsen below, but I found it independently - a specific mention of *Strichfassung" in a list of tasks performed by the Dramaturg: "Bearbeitung und Übersetzung von Dramentexten; im Musiktheater Einrichtung von Opern oder Libretti (Strichfassung = Festlegung von Kürzungen)"
from Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dramaturgie
The English "Dramaturgy" page in Wikipedia is not quite as detailed, but might also be of some use.
Translation is also a function of the dramaturg, which was part of my job.


    Reference: http://drs.library.yale.edu:8083/HLTransformer/HLTransServle...
    Reference: http://www.newcastle.edu.au/students/degrees-to-careers/job/...
Woodstock (X)
Germany
Local time: 07:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you woodstock for your to-the-point suggestion! Thank you everyone else for your very valuable contributions!
Notes to answerer
Asker: I thought I sent an answer before, but it seems to have been lost in space... If it reached you, pls ignore this, otherwise here goes again: Thank you, I believe this is quite what I was looking for. I am dealing with an (Austrian) contract to be translated for guest (performers), i.e., it is all happening in Austria. You are right, German Wiki on Dramaturgie is rather more detailed than the English page. Anyway, I guess this will be IT. Thank you again!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lancashireman: How about 'the final cut'? For an EN readership, it is probably best to omit 'Dramaturg' (Drama? Urgh!).
10 hrs
  -> Thanks, Andrew. Since this is a contract for an Austrian theater, dramaturg is fine. If it were for the US or UK, some accommodation would probably be appropriate.

agree  Nicole Schnell
11 hrs
  -> Thank you, Nicole.

neutral  philgoddard: I think there's some confusion between "dramaturg" and "dramaturgical" here. The German says neither. Dramaturgical just means "pertaining to plays".
13 hrs
  -> Not really. It's highly specialized language and has to do with the function of the dramaturg in the German-speaking theatre. Since this is for Austria, it is fine. I don't know about UK, but in the US the dramaturg doesn't carry nearly the same weight.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(script) cut(s) version


Explanation:
http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewGeneraldiscussion.php?idThread...

https://sites.google.com/site/wsumerchantofvenice/script-cut...
http://ebookbrowse.com/othello-script-cut-version-pdf-d29634...


freekfluweel
Netherlands
Local time: 07:38
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your suggestions, in particular the link to the Merchant of Venice - how DID you find it?? Very good!!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: Cut version.
12 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
abbreviated version


Explanation:
I have seen in some instances (don't remember where right now).
Of course , "concise" is also possible

gangels (X)
Local time: 23:38
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 32
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Reference comments


26 mins peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: (dramaturgy) line version = definition of shortening / to cut a play

Reference information:
Qwika - Dramaturgie
wikipedia.qwika.com/de2en/Dramaturgie
Dramaturgy designates also the work area drama door gene at the theatre. ... Treatment and translation of drama texts; in the concert hall mechanism of operas or Libretti (***line version = definition of shortening***); development of background ...

Dramaturgie – Wikipedia
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dramaturgie
Bearbeitung und Übersetzung von Dramentexten; im Musiktheater Einrichtung von Opern oder Libretti (***Strichfassung = Festlegung von Kürzungen***) ...


dict.cc dictionary :: Strichfassung :: German-English translation
www.dict.cc/german-english/Strichfassung.html
Tabular list of translations | always » List of translations starting with the same letters » StR | Strich | ***Strichfassung · eine Strichfassung erstellen · to cut a play*** ...

The Dramaturgy of Dialect - ScholarWorks@UMass Amherst ...
scholarworks.umass.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1151&context...

PDF/Adobe Acrobat
TA Kingston - 2008 -
useful tool to use when looking at the dramaturgical problems faced when producing plays in an .... codes embedded in the text when producing a play from another culture. .... ***Most of the cuts were made simply to shorten the length*** of the ...

Dramaturgy: A Revolution in Theatre. - Free Online Library
www.thefreelibrary.com › ... › Theatre Notebook › October 1, 2006
Free Online Library: Dramaturgy: A Revolution in Theatre. ... As with Lessing, she returns to the original texts, and in Brecht's case the most illuminating ... ***Dialogues, known to many only through the shortened version*** translated by John Willett.

The Dramaturgy of Senecan Tragedy - Page 5 -
books.google.com/books?isbn=0472118579
Thomas Kohn - 2012 - Performing Arts
By ***studying midline sense pauses and certain metrical shortening***, Fitch has divided ... the order followed both in Zwierlein's Oxford Classical Texts and in Fitch's ...

The Dramaturgy of Religious Emotions in Bach's ... - Bach Network UK
www.bachnetwork.co.uk/ub4/hacohen.pdf
PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Dramaturgy, when applied to Bach's vocal religious compositions, raises a major .... similar way as did ***linear perspective, foreshortening and gesture*** in, say, ..... 1) speech acts (as textual units) entailed in the poetical text: their kinds, force, ...

The Ontology of Dramaturgy
www.tau.ac.il/.../The Ontology of Dramaturgy IX.doc
Microsoft Word - Quick View
So defined and deployed, it is a formal category. .... a convincing form of her argument exists somewhere, ***proportionate to the shortened form shown on stage . ..... Of course, to be revealing, many lines in the play had been made sharper*** and ...

andres-larsen
Venezuela
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thank you so much for your efforts! Some very valuable references there!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Woodstock (X): I meant to do this earlier, but got sidetracked. Great work!
7 hrs
agree  Nicole Schnell
12 hrs
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