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moralisch noch ungefestigt

English translation: morally immature

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German term or phrase:moralisch noch ungefestigt
English translation:morally immature
Entered by: Rachel Ward

11:23 Aug 2, 2005
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature
German term or phrase: moralisch noch ungefestigt
Same text, a bit later on:

"Outlaws jaulen oft Lieder in die Nacht hinaus, in denen sie sich als freiheitsliebende Revoluzzer stilisieren. Bei unerfagren, *moralisch noch ungefestigten* Welpen schinden solche Gesänge mächtig Eindruck..."

I've got "not yet morally established" but I don't like it much! Any suggestions gratefully received.
Rachel Ward
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:56
morally immature
Explanation:
or have not yet morally matured
Selected response from:

gfish
Local time: 06:56
Grading comment
Thanks all. Victor's is also good but a bit too long!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +3who have not yet developed their own moral stance
Victor Dewsbery
2 +2morally immature
gfish
4corruptible
Stephen Roche
4morally undeveloped
Claire Langhard
4morally still on shaky ground
Parzival
3morally adrift
Lori Dendy-Molz
2(morally) undisciplined
Francis Lee (X)


Discussion entries: 1





  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
who have not yet developed their own moral stance


Explanation:
Afraid I haven't followed your previous posts, so I'm not sure what to make of the puppies. But that is not your question here.

Victor Dewsbery
Germany
Local time: 15:56
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kieran McCann
3 mins
agree  Brie Vernier
12 mins
agree  Jan Vano
57 mins
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +2
morally immature


Explanation:
or have not yet morally matured

gfish
Local time: 06:56
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thanks all. Victor's is also good but a bit too long!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  BirgitBerlin: I prefer "morally immature".
1 hr
agree  silfilla: morally immature
8 hrs
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49 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
corruptible


Explanation:
naive, corriptible kids

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Note added at 51 mins (2005-08-02 12:15:07 GMT)
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sorry, thought this was still from that cowboy book you were translating last week. Forget this entry...

Stephen Roche
Local time: 15:56
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PRO pts in category: 22
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
morally undeveloped


Explanation:
how about this?

Claire Langhard
Switzerland
Local time: 15:56
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morally still on shaky ground


Explanation:
the "ungefestigt" lets me think of shaky.

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Note added at 3 hrs 31 mins (2005-08-02 14:55:16 GMT)
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maybe \"morally still wobbly\" because of them being \"Welpen\".

Parzival
South Africa
Local time: 15:56
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
morally adrift


Explanation:
one more option

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Note added at 19 hrs 37 mins (2005-08-03 07:00:21 GMT)
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BTW, \"pup\" (short for puppy, but often used for young men) would be an authentic translation for \"Welpen\" here.
\"These kinds of songs have a powerful influence on inexperienced pups, still morally adrift (or immature or undeveloped), ...\"

...if the client can get over the similarity to \"Pups\" ;)

Lori Dendy-Molz
Germany
Local time: 15:56
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 22
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
(morally) undisciplined


Explanation:
although it could be in the sense of "impressionable"

Francis Lee (X)
Local time: 15:56
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 80
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