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Selbstleben

English translation: (individual) autonomy

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German term or phrase:Selbstleben
English translation:(individual) autonomy
Entered by: Andy S

17:38 Apr 29, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Philosophy / Platonism
German term or phrase: Selbstleben
"Er (Augustine) durchbricht aber diesen Kreis (den Gedanken-Kreise der Platonnismus) und eröffney neue Bahnen, indem das Verlangen nach mehr Kraft und Selbstleben ihn den Kern der Seele nicht mehr im Erkennen, sondern im Wollen suchen heisst."

This is all the context I have.
Andy S
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:07
(individual) autonomy
Explanation:
Or self-determination, or self-reliance.
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philgoddard
United States
Grading comment
Thankyou Phil
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5(individual) autonomy
philgoddard
4life of a self /self-life
Liliana Galiano
3awareness of self
Gabriella Bertelmann
Summary of reference entries provided
HTH
casper (X)
Full version is available here:
Johanna Timm, PhD
= "die Kraft an und für sich zu bewegen
Jim Tucker (X)

Discussion entries: 8





  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
(individual) autonomy


Explanation:
Or self-determination, or self-reliance.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thankyou Phil
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Phil


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: based on the overall context (quoted in the reference section) this fits well. The author uses "Selbstleben" also when referring to Nietzsche and other 'modern' philosophers ( i.e. it's not an 'Augustine'-specific term)
44 mins
  -> Thanks Johanna.
agree  Elisabeth Kissel
1 hr
  -> Thanks.
agree  Jim Tucker (X): (Plz. see ref. posted below)
11 hrs
  -> Good reference. Thanks.
agree  gangels (X)
19 hrs
  -> Thank you.
agree  Nicole Backhaus
1 day 2 hrs
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
life of a self /self-life


Explanation:


ABSTRACT OF DISSERTATION Gilbert Vasile Lepadatu The Graduate ...
de GV Lepadatu - 2009 - Las 2 versiones
In other words, life is always the life of a self: a self-life (Selbstleben). Life is indeed carrying out, effectuation, but by no means impersonal, ...
archive.uky.edu/bitstream/10225/1059/Lepadatu.pdf

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Note added at 34 mins (2010-04-29 18:13:11 GMT)
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http://74.125.155.132/scholar?q=cache:GSPIHw-crygJ:scholar.g...

Liliana Galiano
Argentina
Local time: 16:07
Native speaker of: Spanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jim Tucker (X): Pretty much only a Heideggerian would translate it like this, to make the provenance clear. It's a practical solution in that context but otherwise very 20th-century, and hence an anachronism for Augustine. // "autonomy" is also a philosophical term.
1 hr
  -> Philosophical language should be used and not ordinary, everyday language.
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
awareness of self


Explanation:
"Er (Augustine) durchbricht aber diesen Kreis (den Gedanken-Kreise der Platonnismus) und eröffney neue Bahnen, indem das Verlangen nach mehr Kraft und Selbstleben ihn den Kern der Seele nicht mehr im Erkennen, sondern im Wollen suchen heisst."

individual awareness or awareness of self would be my suggestion, this is tricky though

Gabriella Bertelmann
Local time: 21:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thankyou


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jim Tucker (X): needs to be in the same category as "Kraft" -- in other words, it's active. The passage specifically says that this quality goes beyond recognition into more active will. In other words, it's something stronger than self-awareness.
4 hrs
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Reference comments


32 mins
Reference: HTH

Reference information:
Life, which we ourselves are, is always “my life”, “your life”, “our life” etc. Life is always somebody’s life. In other words, life is always the life of a self: a self-life (Selbstleben).
http://lib.uky.edu/ETD/ukyphil2009d00969/Lepadatu.pdf

casper (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks Jennifer

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52 mins
Reference: Full version is available here:

Reference information:
http://www.archive.org/stream/dielebensanscha01euckgoog/diel...

Titel: Die Lebensanschauungen der grossen Denker

Eine Entwicklungseschichte des Lebensproblems
der Menschheit von Plato bis zur Gegenwart

Autor: Rudolf Eucken

Fünfte umgearbeitete Auflage, Verlag von Veit & Comp, in Leipzig
1904

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 28
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12 hrs
Reference: = "die Kraft an und für sich zu bewegen

Reference information:
...und eine gewisse Richtung anzunehmen"


http://books.google.hu/books?id=VA5hbLVIFf8C&pg=PA373&lpg=PA...

Jim Tucker (X)
United States
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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