Harmoniesucht

English translation: peace at any price

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German term or phrase:Harmoniesucht
English translation:peace at any price
Entered by: mill2

21:49 May 5, 2009
German to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Philosophy / moral philosophy
German term or phrase: Harmoniesucht
This is a pretty common term in German but I can't find an English equivalent. "Addiction to harmony" sounds very translated - there must be something else.

Gegen Spottlust ist eigentlich nichts einzuwenden, wenn sie nicht respektlos und gehässig ist. Ebenso kann Streitlust belebend wirken, wenn sie nicht in Rechthaberei und Starrsinn ausartet. Widerspruchsgeist kann unverzichtbar sein, wenn sich *Harmoniesucht* und Konfliktscheu ausbreiten.
mill2
Local time: 12:43
peace at any price
Explanation:
"Peace at any price" is the common English expression which keeps the similarly negative undertone. "Harmoniesucht" in German is implicitly negative, so my first reaction was to go along with Anne-Marie Grant -"harmony at any price" but "harmony at any price" only has a few hundred hits in google- the much more usual expression is "peace at any price" and I think the nearest to "Harmoniesucht". Here are some examples of the use of "Harmoniesucht" showing its negative overtones:

Nein, Harmoniesucht kann man den alten Freizeitautoren wirklich nicht vorwerfen.( Quelle: Frankfurter Rundschau 1992 )
Autoritätshörigkeit, Hierarchiedenken und Harmoniesucht der Ostdeutschen seien ein Nährboden für Neonazis.( Quelle: Junge Welt 2000 )
Die schweren, verzerrten Sounds des Hard-Rocks wurden von peinlichen Texten befreit, der Punk von der Sicherheitsnadel und der Folk von der Harmoniesucht.( Quelle: Welt 1996 )
Die in der Politik vorherrschende Harmoniesucht hatte bewirkt, dass nicht über konfliktgeladene Themen, wie die zunehmende Straßenkriminalität oder die oft fehlschlagende Integration von Ausländern, geredet wurde.( Quelle: Die Welt Online vom 03.09.2004 )
Aber in den zwei Jahren hat Cordelia Wege gelernt, dass allzu viel Harmoniesucht in einer Kampfzone wie der Volksbühne auch den Weg zur Hölle bereiten kann.( Quelle: DIE WELT 2001 )
Die Geister freilich scheiden sich nicht erst an der typisch sächsischen Harmoniesucht.( Quelle: Tagesspieg
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YorickJenkins
Local time: 12:43
Grading comment
as soon as Erich Friese mentioned "peace" I knew that was the word I was missing - this is perfect, thank you!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1yearning for harmony
Lirka
4peace at any price
YorickJenkins
3 +1(tendency towards) conflict avoidance
Gert Sass (M.A.)
3penchant for harmony
swisstell
3to seek harmony at all costs
Paul Cohen
3always wanting to be diplomatic
Bernhard Sulzer
3craving for harmony
Eike Katharina Adari-von Kleist (X)
3a need for harmony at any price
Anne-Marie Grant (X)


  

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penchant for harmony


Explanation:
perhaps not strong enough but certainly a way around addiction

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believe that one must have the penchant for harmony for everything; your home, your office space, your smile, your choice of words, your professional ...
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swisstell
Italy
Local time: 12:43
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Erich Friese: ...what's wrong with 'addicted to peace'...?? dictionary entry: harmoniesüchtig Adj. peace-loving; pej. afraid of conflict, wanting peace at any price
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
yearning for harmony


Explanation:
Yearn, long, hanker, pine all mean to feel a powerful desire for something.


Lirka
Austria
Local time: 12:43
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
7 hrs
  -> Danke sehr, Harald!
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to seek harmony at all costs


Explanation:
A verbal construction might do the trick here.

...when people seek harmony at all costs and avoid confrontation.


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ausbreiten = when people start to seek ...

Example sentence(s):
  • These cultures are non-confrontational and seek harmony at all costs in public.
  • I've noticed that it is very much in my nature to avoid conflict and seek harmony at all costs.
Paul Cohen
Greenland
Local time: 09:43
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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always wanting to be diplomatic


Explanation:
if you want to use it alongside "konfliktscheu" (shying away from, avoiding conflict)

or:
being diplomatic at all costs
(constant/uncompromising:)) diplomatic behaviour
personified:
(being/playing) the constant/uncompromising/habitual diplomat
readiness/always ready to compromise

constantly agreeing


Bernhard Sulzer
United States
Local time: 06:43
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Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 24
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craving for harmony


Explanation:
found numerous "hits"

Eike Katharina Adari-von Kleist (X)
Germany
Local time: 12:43
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Lirka: yes, it CAN be used, though "craving" is more often used in connection with a substance; e.g. craving sweets, rather than a psychological state;
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, lirka, let's agree that we disagree.
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a need for harmony at any price


Explanation:
Sucht is a strong word. I think the translation should reflect the idea of need or desperate craving, no matter what the consequences.

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You also hear of people who are 'desperate to avoid conflict'.

Anne-Marie Grant (X)
Local time: 11:43
Native speaker of: English
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
peace at any price


Explanation:
"Peace at any price" is the common English expression which keeps the similarly negative undertone. "Harmoniesucht" in German is implicitly negative, so my first reaction was to go along with Anne-Marie Grant -"harmony at any price" but "harmony at any price" only has a few hundred hits in google- the much more usual expression is "peace at any price" and I think the nearest to "Harmoniesucht". Here are some examples of the use of "Harmoniesucht" showing its negative overtones:

Nein, Harmoniesucht kann man den alten Freizeitautoren wirklich nicht vorwerfen.( Quelle: Frankfurter Rundschau 1992 )
Autoritätshörigkeit, Hierarchiedenken und Harmoniesucht der Ostdeutschen seien ein Nährboden für Neonazis.( Quelle: Junge Welt 2000 )
Die schweren, verzerrten Sounds des Hard-Rocks wurden von peinlichen Texten befreit, der Punk von der Sicherheitsnadel und der Folk von der Harmoniesucht.( Quelle: Welt 1996 )
Die in der Politik vorherrschende Harmoniesucht hatte bewirkt, dass nicht über konfliktgeladene Themen, wie die zunehmende Straßenkriminalität oder die oft fehlschlagende Integration von Ausländern, geredet wurde.( Quelle: Die Welt Online vom 03.09.2004 )
Aber in den zwei Jahren hat Cordelia Wege gelernt, dass allzu viel Harmoniesucht in einer Kampfzone wie der Volksbühne auch den Weg zur Hölle bereiten kann.( Quelle: DIE WELT 2001 )
Die Geister freilich scheiden sich nicht erst an der typisch sächsischen Harmoniesucht.( Quelle: Tagesspieg

YorickJenkins
Local time: 12:43
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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as soon as Erich Friese mentioned "peace" I knew that was the word I was missing - this is perfect, thank you!
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(tendency towards) conflict avoidance


Explanation:
At 1st sight, it doesn’t seem like you would have to differentiate between Harmoniesucht and Konfliktvermeidung, which I would treat as synonyms in the given context.


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If looking for a closer equivalent, how about "peace obsession"?

This virtual peace obsession. had its most significant impact on the two major parties. Roosevelt was now campaigning for the Republican nomination ...
publications.ohiohistory.org/ohstemplate.cfm?action=detail&Page=0062117.html&StartPage=109... - 23k

Anglican Friends of Israel - War Clouds over the Golan
15 Aug 2007 ... For such realistic, helpful friends, do not look to the Bush administration, which with its Abbas-, Fatah-, and peace-obsession only abets ...
www.anglicanfriendsofisrael.com/content/view/31/33


Comments on “Morocco jails Facebook faker” • The Register
I never got this pinko-commie-liberal peace obsession." is a whole other matter. It gives an air of official truth to it. More importantly, the whole ...
www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/25/morocco_prince_facebook_se... - 26k –


Agent for the Resistance: a Belgian saboteur in World War II - Google Buchsuche-Ergebnisseite
von Herman Bodson, Richard A. Schmidt - 1994 - History - 243 Seiten
For the left it was a peace obsession, peace at all costs. Equally clear from the press was that the Austrian ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0890966079...



Gert Sass (M.A.)
Germany
Local time: 12:43
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Helen Shiner: A good idea in this sort of context.
19 hrs
  -> Thanks, Helen.
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