einen Rest von Ethik

English translation: a remnant of moral value(s)

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German term or phrase:einen Rest von Ethik
English translation:a remnant of moral value(s)
Entered by: Frosty

21:57 Jan 17, 2005
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Government / Politics
German term or phrase: einen Rest von Ethik
This is paraphrasing the opinion of an Indian professor on the potential role of Europe ("wir") regards the abuse of technology:
"Denn nur wir hätten Geld und noch einen Rest von Ethik"
I'm actually thinking we'd talk about "conscience" (in English) in this context (hence the classification), but all (auch ethical) suggestions are welcome!
Francis Lee (X)
Local time: 15:04
a remnant of moral value
Explanation:
A idea.
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Frosty
Local time: 15:04
Grading comment
I'm going to put "a remnant of morality/moral responsibility". Thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +8some decency left
Johanna Timm, PhD
4 +2a shred of ...
Kurt Beals
4where ethics (ethical values) are still relevant
Ingrid Blank
4still have a modicum/semblance of morality
CMJ_Trans (X)
3a remnant of moral value
Frosty
2 +1some residual morality
Gabrielle Lyons


Discussion entries: 6





  

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a remnant of moral value


Explanation:
A idea.

Frosty
Local time: 15:04
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
I'm going to put "a remnant of morality/moral responsibility". Thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Erik Macki: moral/moral values <> ethics
15 mins
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +8
some decency left


Explanation:
[wäre gut, den kompletten Satz zu haben]
...the only ones with money and some decency left

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Note added at 1 hr 42 mins (2005-01-17 23:39:41 GMT)
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after your added info:
\'because that was the only place that could pride itself on having money and some decency left\'
\"Ein Rest von Ethik? Gut wir haben in Europa in der Tat einen Ethikrat...\"
Some decency left? In fact, the Europeans have ensured that by establishing a \'National Ethics Council\' ( Ethikrat)


decency

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 06:04
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Renate FitzRoy
14 mins

agree  Christine Lam
16 mins

agree  Robert Kleemaier
24 mins

agree  Gabrielle Lyons
51 mins

agree  Olaf Reibedanz
1 hr
  -> come on guys... it can't be THATgood!!

agree  mstkwasa: Oh yes, it is GOOD! It sounds so natural.
2 hrs

agree  Anglo-German (X)
6 hrs

agree  Hilary Davies Shelby: i like decency here too
12 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
a shred of ...


Explanation:
"a shred of" would work well for "einen Rest von" here - either with the "dignity" that Johanna suggested, or with something like ethical values, conscience or moral sensibility, or principles.

I think "dignity" pertains more to how one is viewed by others, though, whereas Ethik pertains more to one's own behavior. Since the second occurrence mentions an Ethikrat, which would probably be best translated with something including "ethics" in English ("minister of morals" would sound too Orwellian), I'd go with something like "we are the only ones who not only have money, but also still hold onto a shred of our ethical values."

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Note added at 2 hrs 37 mins (2005-01-18 00:34:29 GMT)
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Oh, sorry, Johanna\'s answer was decency, not dignity. Decency is certainly more applicable, though I do wonder about the transition from decency to Ethikrat.

Kurt Beals
United States
Local time: 06:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jonathan MacKerron: shred of decency
7 hrs

agree  Hilary Davies Shelby: shred of decency
10 hrs
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
where ethics (ethical values) are still relevant


Explanation:
or: still have some ethical principles left

I would not replace ethics with something else since reference is made to the Council of Ethics

Ingrid Blank
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
still have a modicum/semblance of morality


Explanation:
and not be totally without morals

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Note added at 2005-01-18 09:33:38 (GMT)
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not totally devoid of morals

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Note added at 2005-01-18 12:52:03 (GMT)
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VESTIGES OF

CMJ_Trans (X)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
some residual morality


Explanation:
A suggestion for if you think he's being that catty. If he's neutral, then go with Johanna

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Note added at 2 days 16 hrs 31 mins (2005-01-20 14:28:36 GMT)
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After your note about the next sentence.
I think, if your author is giving a definition of Ethik, you must choose a more \'philosophical\'word than \'decency\'. \'Ethics\' is an obvious possibility, I still like my \'morality\'. \'Moral values\' etc also ok. You could combine answers and have \'some morality left\'. Pity you can\'t divide the points :-)

Gabrielle Lyons
Local time: 14:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Joseph Hovan: I like this!
7 mins
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