Daseinsvorsorge

English translation: provision of public utilities and public services

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German term or phrase:Daseinsvorsorge
English translation:provision of public utilities and public services
Entered by: casper (X)

11:50 Nov 25, 2008
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: Daseinsvorsorge
My Romain/Byrd/Thielecke gives "Provision for Elementary Requirements" for "Daseinvorsorge" - but I feel there must be a better translation than this - the suggestion here
http://hc.rediris.es/09/articulos/pdf/15.pdf seems a bit long winded however.

Not too much context available - it is in a list of bullet points in a reference for a lawyer, concerning responsibilties in EU matters.
Andy S
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:01
(development and setting of) the provision of public utilities and public services
Explanation:
Energy provision, local government and the market – the German case
This entry on “the German case” will come in four steps
• first, an overview of the ***development and setting of the provision of public utilities (Daseinsvorsorge)*** by local government will be given.
• Second, the impact which recent EU deregulation policy has had on this sector.
• Third, energy provision will be dealt with as a case in point
• Finally, some concluding remarks will be made.
1. Historical background and institutional setting
Reaching back to the 19th century the scope of operations of the local authorities, under different organisational forms, in the ***public utilities and public services (Daseinsvorsorge)*** sector has traditionally been broad.
The mushrooming urban population obliged local authorities to take on new responsibilities in the crucial fields of gas, electricity and water supply, sewage, waste removal and public transport (cf. von Saldern 1999: 30 ff.; Püttner 1999: 541). This sector of activities, in
German called Daseinsvorsorge, has traditionally been governed by the notion that local authorities should act in the interests of “the common good of the local community.
http://tinyurl.com/64bqwc


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@Andrew Stucken: Funny - I mean, I see that "the asker has declined this answer" and yet I have "points belatedly coming your (i.e., my) way". Thanks, Andrew :-)
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Summary of answers provided
4General Interest
Ebru Kopf
4provision for existence
cons (X)
3Existence provisions
Nikola Ivanov
3(development and setting of) the provision of public utilities and public services
casper (X)
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Has been asked before
Steffen Walter

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Daseinvorsorge
Existence provisions


Explanation:
Not very sure about it, but as far as I understand, it is used about many things - the existence/life of a person itself, provision of water supply, etc.
The term "existeance provisions", on the other hand, even though it is rather rarely used, stands for "guaranteeing the bare existence of sth./so." in a very general sense.
Hope this helps.

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I didn't see the typo.
There are "social welfare provisions", which have the same explanation as the German "Daseinsvorsorge".

Example sentence(s):
  • ...an integral feature of the legislation was the existence provisions for the external accountability...

    Reference: http://www.ombo.nsw.gov.au/publication/PDF/annualreport/The%...
Nikola Ivanov
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Daseinvorsorge
General Interest


Explanation:
Then here is my answer :) mainly refers to public interest actually.
I hope it helps.

Ebru Kopf
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Ebru, this is a very tricky one to put into English I think.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Steffen Walter: "General interest" alone will hardly suffice. IMHO this is about the scope of services in the general (public) interest (to be provided by the govt.). / Yes, but just "general interest" or "public interest" is still insufficient as a translation.
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  -> thnx, as I mentioned in my explanation, for me it refers to public interest as well
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(development and setting of) the provision of public utilities and public services


Explanation:
Energy provision, local government and the market – the German case
This entry on “the German case” will come in four steps
• first, an overview of the ***development and setting of the provision of public utilities (Daseinsvorsorge)*** by local government will be given.
• Second, the impact which recent EU deregulation policy has had on this sector.
• Third, energy provision will be dealt with as a case in point
• Finally, some concluding remarks will be made.
1. Historical background and institutional setting
Reaching back to the 19th century the scope of operations of the local authorities, under different organisational forms, in the ***public utilities and public services (Daseinsvorsorge)*** sector has traditionally been broad.
The mushrooming urban population obliged local authorities to take on new responsibilities in the crucial fields of gas, electricity and water supply, sewage, waste removal and public transport (cf. von Saldern 1999: 30 ff.; Püttner 1999: 541). This sector of activities, in
German called Daseinsvorsorge, has traditionally been governed by the notion that local authorities should act in the interests of “the common good of the local community.
http://tinyurl.com/64bqwc


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@Andrew Stucken: Funny - I mean, I see that "the asker has declined this answer" and yet I have "points belatedly coming your (i.e., my) way". Thanks, Andrew :-)

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Points belatedly coming your way - thanks
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Asker: Thanks Chetan

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provision for existence


Explanation:
The term is referred to in Meinel, F (2007) Ernst Forsthoff and the Intellectual History of German Administrative Law. The German Law Journal Vol 08 No. 08 pp 785–800.

Term coined by Ernst Forsthoff in Die Verwaltung als Leistungsträger (1938) (Administration as Provider of Services).

Spanish equivalent is Procura Existencial [Jeronimo Molina: Representacion, Asociacion, Participation]


Example sentence(s):
  • Forsthoff condensed these observations in the famous notion of Daseinsvorsorge (provision for existence), a term that would remain crucial to the understanding of German administrative law until today

    Reference: http://www.germanlawjournal.com/pdfs/Vol08No08/PDF_Vol_08_No...
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Reference comments


28 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Has been asked before

Reference information:
Please always do a ProZ.com term search before asking - http://www.proz.com/?sp=ksearch - and see previous questions cited below. Also, some context would definitely help - what is the content of the other bullet points, and does the point you are referring to just say "Daseinsvorsorge"?

(I've come across "Leistungen der Daseinsvorsorge", too, which I have seen translated as "services of general interest", in line with Manuela's suggestion in the first question cited below.)

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In general, the "Daseinsvorsorge" must be ensured by the state/government - there has been much discussion with respect to the scope of services to be included in the concept, and thus to be provided by the state.


    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/law_general/1813...
    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/government_polit...
Steffen Walter
Germany
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