مرخصی بدون احتساب سنوات

11:25 Sep 22, 2009 

Dear All:

I'd like to try to put an end to this lengthy discussion that doesn't seem to be stopping anywhere!

In trying to find an existing equivalent in English, we have provided answers that divide us into two groups: 1) those who believe the term is used for employees (academic or otherwise); and 2) those who think it is used for students. I believe the former applies here.

We've also put ourselves into another category: some of us believe it is paid and some others don't.

Nevertheless, I believe we cannot find an existing English term exactly equal in meaning and usage to the term used in Persian; therefore, neither arguing about the paid or unpaid nature of this leave nor limiting its usage to students or employees could be of any help here; because, as I said earlier, these are certain characteristics which would help us find an already existing term, which doesn't seem to exist. We should, therefore, make up a new translation. Among the answers I find Edward's last suggestion (non-accruing leave of absence) and Hossein Abbasi Mohaghegh's "non-count periods of leave" more useful.

Hope I've successfully ended the discussion and apologies if I'm missing any poin

06:20 Sep 22, 2009 

leave of absence اجازه مرخصی، ایام ترک خدمت leave sick مرخصی استعلاجی leave with pay or without pay مرخصی با حقووق یا بدون حقوق compensatory leave مرخصی جبرانی terminal leave مرخصی قبل از بازنشستگی maternity leave مرخصی مربوط به زایمان educational leave مرخصی مطالعاتی with all these into consideration I think this peculiar type of leave as Ed also mentioned and is offered in my translation refers to a leave or leave of ansence where no longer its time is counted, a type of leave without counting the annual account or score.
Thank you all for offering your useful opinions here.

05:11 Sep 22, 2009 

thank you all for the explication. I meant the same as فرصت مطالعاتی for the asker clearly stated: "This phrase is used in academic & administrative records" and
to my point of view for employment- pls correct me if I am wrong-"UNPAID LEAVE" would be مرخصی بدن سنوات due to the fact that when an employee is not paid for the leave, the pertinent social security portion out of his salary and the related tax is not paid to the authorities; hence, no count on the service record. I personally have had this experience with my employees.

21:12 Sep 21, 2009 

According to West Virginia website, “The academic leave of absence is designed for the student who wishes to be away from his/her academic endeavors at WVU for one or more semesters, but intends to return at a later date.” This definition is very close to what our مرخصی تحصیلی is. So I still believe “academic leave of absence” is good enough to be used as مرخصی بدون احتساب در سنوات.
Many thanks for your concern. All the best.

21:12 Sep 21, 2009 

The asker clearly categorizes this term as "academic & administrative" in the beginning of her explanation, where she says, "This phrase is used in academic & administrative records". Therefore I wouldn't think it is related to Employees at all.
This type of مرخصی is the subdivision of مرخصی تحصیلی, which is basically taking a break from studying for many reasons, e.g becoming pregnant or getting married.
http://gsme.sharif.edu/~management/farsi/pdfform/p.pdf is the form of requesting a مرخصی تحصیلی of the Sharif University of Technology. In the 4th field in paragraph 3 it says, این مرخصی با احتساب / بدون احتساب در سنوات تحصیلی دانشجو منظور می¬شود. , this clearly means that مرخصی بدون احتساب در سنوات is a term which is definitely used in academic contexts and is the subdivision of مرخصی تحصیلی. And با احتساب در سنوات means, the مرخصی is included in their years of study; بدون احتساب در سنوات means the مرخصی is not included in their years of study...

19:45 Sep 21, 2009 

This simple entry has produced an unexpected amount of words.

First, from the Asker's information, it is clear to me that the "morakhasi" in question is for EMPLOYEES, not students taking a break.

It is true that "sabbatical" has become commonly used to mean "time off" from a job to do something else. But, since we are in the academic context here where it has a very special application, we should not use it for the Asker's type of leave.

In searching quite a few academic websites (USA) which explain their leave policies, the ones that come closest without mentioning "bedune ehtesabe sanevat" as part of the item entry were "personal leave" and "professional leave". And there were different categories of these.

To cover this specific aspect, I have suggested something like "non-accruing leave of absence" or "leave of absence without time accrual". This makes it clear that the time of the leave taken will not be added to the employee's length of employment.

16:31 Sep 21, 2009 

As far as I know sabbatical leave has been translated as فرصت مطالعاتی is there other equivalents for that? Wish you all the best